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•Excerpts from Trump’s Interview with The Times.	•Auszüge aus dem Trumpinterview mit der 'The Times'.
•By The New York Times, December 28, 2017. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/us/politics/trump-interview-excerpts.html?_r=0.	•Von The New York Times, 28.Dezember 2017. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/us/politics/trump-interview-excerpts.html?_r=0.
•(Note: MvR - for an explanation of the US acronyms, see the Discussion).	•(Anmerkung: MvR - für eine Erklärung der US-Abkürzungen, siehe die Diskussion).
•President Trump spoke on Thursday with a reporter from The New York Times, Michael S. Schmidt. •The interview took place in the Grill Room of his golf club in West Palm Beach, Fla., whose noise made some portions at times hard to hear.	•Präsident Trump sprach am Donnerstag mit einem Reporter der The New York Times, Michael S. Schmidt. •Das Interview fand im Grillraum seines Golfclubs in West Palm Beach, Florida, statt, dessen Lärm es manchmal schwer machte, einige Abschnitte zu verstehen.
•The following are excerpts from that conversation, transcribed by The Times. •They have been lightly edited for content and clarity, and omit several off-the-record comments and asides.	•Nachfolgendes sind Auszüge aus dieser Unterhaltung, aufgezeichnet von 'The Times'. •Für Inhalt und Klarheit sind sie leicht bearbeitet worden und lassen verschiedene inoffizielle Kommentare und Randbemerkungen aus.
•The interview started with a discussion of an interview Mr. Schmidt conducted with Mr. Trump in July, when Mr. Trump said he would not have appointed Jeff Sessions as attorney general had he known that Mr. •Sessions would recuse himself from the Russia investigation.	•Das Interview begann mit einer Diskussion eines Interviews, das Mr. Schmidt im Juli mit Mr. Trump führte, als Mr. Trump sagte, er hätte Jeff Sessions nicht als Generalstaatsanwalt ernannt, wenn er gewusst hätte, dass Mr. •Sessions von der Russlanduntersuchung wegen Befangenheit zurûcktreten würde.
•DONALD J. TRUMP: I thought it was a terrible thing he did. •[Inaudible.] •I thought it was certainly unnecessary, I thought it was a terrible thing. •But I think it’s all worked out because frankly there is absolutely no collusion, that’s been proven by every Democrat is saying it.	•DONALD J. TRUMP: Ich fand, es war eine schreckliche Sache, die er tat. •[Unhörbar.] •Ich fand, es war sicher unnötig, ich fand, es war eine schreckliche Sache. •Aber ich denke, es hat alles geklappt, denn ehrlich gesagt gibt es absolut keine Absprachen, das wurde dadurch bewiesen, dass es jeder Demokraten sagt.
•MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT: You’re O.K. •with me recording, right?	•MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT: Sie sind •mit der Aufzeichnung einverstanden, richtig?
•TRUMP: Yeah. •Virtually every Democrat has said there is no collusion. •There is no collusion. •And even these committees that have been set up. •If you look at what’s going on — and in fact, what it’s done is, it’s really angered the base and made the base stronger. •My base is stronger than it’s ever been. •Great congressmen, in particular, some of the congressmen have been unbelievable in pointing out what a witch hunt the whole thing is. •So, I think it’s been proven that there is no collusion.	•TRUMP: Jaa. •Praktisch jeder Demokrat sagte, es gibt keine geheime Absprache. •Es gibt keine Absprache. •Und sogar diese Ausschüsse, die eingerichtet wurden. •Wenn man sich ansieht, was passiert - und tatsächlich, was es getan hat, hat es die Basis wirklich verärgert und stärker gemacht. •Meine Basis ist stärker als sie je gewesen ist. •Große Kongreßabgeordnete, insbesondere einige Kongreßabgeordnete, waren unglaublich darin, aufzuzeigen, was für eine Hexenjagd die ganze Sache ist. •So denke ich, ist es bewiesen worden, es gibt keine geheime Absprache.
•And by the way, I didn’t deal with Russia. •I won because I was a better candidate by a lot. •I won because I campaigned properly and she didn’t. •She campaigned for the popular vote. •I campaigned for the Electoral College. •And you know, it is a totally different thing, Mike. •You know the Electoral College, it’s like a track star. •If you’re going to run the 100-yard dash, you work out differently than if you’re going to run the 1,000 meters or the mile.	•Und übrigens, ich hatte mit Russland nichts zu tun. •Ich gewann, weil ich ein sehr viel besserer Kandidat war. •Ich gewann, weil ich ordnungsgemäß kämpfte und sie nicht. •Sie kämpfte für die Volksabstimmung. •Ich kämpfte für das Wahlmännerkollegium. •Und Sie wissen, dass das etwas völlig anderes ist, Mike. •Sie kennen das Wahlmännergremium, es ist wie ein Spitzenläufer. •Wenn Sie den 100 Meter Sprint laufen wollen, trainieren Sie anders als wenn Sie die 1.000 Meter oder die Meile laufen wollen.
•And it’s different. •It’s in golf. •If you have a tournament and you have match play or stroke play, you prepare differently, believe it or not. •It’s different. •Match play is very different than stroke play. •And you prepare. •So, I went to Maine five times, I went to [inaudible], the genius of the Electoral College is that you go to places you might not go to.	•Und es ist anders. •Ist es bei Golf. •Wenn Sie ein Turnier haben und ein Wettspiel oder ein Zählspiel haben, bereiten Sie sich anders vor, ob Sie es glauben oder nicht. •Es ist anders. •Das Wettspiel ist sehr anders als das Zählspiel. •Und Sie bereiten sich vor. •Also ging ich fünfmal nach Maine, ich ging zu [unhörbar], das Genie des Wahlmännergremiums ist, dass du zu Orten gehst, zu denen du vielleicht nicht hingehen solltest.
•And that’s exactly what [inaudible]. •Otherwise, I would have gone to New York, California, Texas and Florida.	•Und das ist genau was [unhörbar]. •Sonst wäre ich nach New York, Kalifornien, Texas und Florida gegangen.
•SCHMIDT: You would have run completely differently.	•SCHMIDT: Sie wären ganz anders gelaufen.
•TRUMP: It would have been a whole different thing. •The genius is that the popular vote is a much different form of campaigning. •Hillary never understood that.	•TRUMP: Es wäre eine ganz andere Sache gewesen. •Das Genie ist, dass die Volksabstimmung eine ganz andere Form des Wahlkampfes ist. •Hillary hat das nie verstanden.
•SCHMIDT: What’s your expectation on Mueller? •When do you — TRUMP: I have no expectation. •I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion. •Everybody knows it. •And you know who knows it better than anybody? •The Democrats. •They walk around blinking at each other.	•SCHMIDT: Was erwarten Sie von Mueller? •Wann haben Sie - TRUMP: Ich habe keine Erwartungshaltung. •Ich kann Ihnen nur sagen, dass es absolut keine geheimen Absprachen gibt. •Das weiß doch jeder. •Und wissen Sie, wer es noch besser weiß als jeder andere? •Die Demokraten. •Sie laufen umher und blinzeln sich gegenseitig zu.
•SCHMIDT: But when do you think he’ll be done in regards to you — TRUMP: I don’t know.	•SCHMIDT: Aber wann, glauben Sie, wird er alles erledigt haben, hinsichtlich Ihrer Person - TRUMP: Ich weiß es nicht.
•SCHMIDT: But does that bother you?	•SCHMIDT: Aber beunruhigt Sie das?
•TRUMP: No, it doesn’t bother me because I hope that he’s going to be fair. •I think that he’s going to be fair. •And based on that [inaudible]. •There’s been no collusion. •But I think he’s going to be fair. •And if he’s fair — because everybody knows the answer already, Michael. •I want you to treat me fairly. •O.K.?	•TRUMP: Nein, es macht mir nichts aus, weil ich hoffe, dass er fair sein wird. •Ich glaube, er wird fair sein. •Und darauf gestützt [unhörbar]. •Es gab keine geheimen Absprache. •Aber ich glaube, er wird fair sein. •Und falls er fair ist - weil jeder die Antwort schon kennt, Michael. •Ich möchte, dass Sie mich fair behandeln. •In Ordnung?
•SCHMIDT: Believe me. •This is — TRUMP: Everybody knows the answer already. •There was no collusion. •None whatsoever.	•SCHMIDT: Glauben Sie mir. •Das ist - TRUMP: Jeder kennt bereits die Antwort. •Es gab keine geheime Absprache. •Überhaupt keine.
•TRUMP: Maybe I’ll just say a little bit of a [inaudible]. •I’ve always found Paul Manafort to be a very nice man. •And I found him to be an honorable person. •Paul only worked for me for a few months. •Paul worked for Ronald Reagan. •His firm worked for John McCain, worked for Bob Dole, worked for many Republicans for far longer than he worked for me. •And you’re talking about what Paul was many years ago before I ever heard of him. •He worked for me for — what was it, three and a half months?	•TRUMP: Vielleicht werde ich nur ein klein wenig sagen, von einem [unhörbar]. •Ich habe Paul Manafort immer als einen sehr netten Mann empfunden. •Und ich fand ihn eine ehrenwerte Person. •Paul arbeitete nur ein paar Monate für mich. •Paul arbeitete für Ronald Reagan. •Seine Firma arbeitete für John McCain, arbeitete für Bob Dole, arbeitete viel länger für viele Republikaner, als er für mich arbeitete. •Und Sie reden darüber, was Paul vor vielen Jahren war, bevor ich jemals von ihm gehört habe. •Er hat für mich gearbeitet - was war es, dreieinhalb Monate?
•SCHMIDT: A very short period of time.	•SCHMIDT: Eine sehr kurze Zeit.
•TRUMP: Three and a half months. •[Inaudible] So, that’s that. •Let’s just say — I think that Bob Mueller will be fair, and everybody knows that there was no collusion. •I saw Dianne Feinstein the other day on television saying there is no collusion. •She’s the head of the committee. •The Republicans, in terms of the House committees, they come out, they’re so angry because there is no collusion. •So, I actually think that it’s turning out — I actually think it’s turning to the Democrats because there was collusion on behalf of the Democrats. •There was collusion with the Russians and the Democrats. •A lot of collusion.	•TRUMP: Dreieinhalb Monate. •[Unhörbar] Also, das ist es. •Sagen wir einfach - ich denke, Bob Mueller wird fair sein, und jeder weiß, dass es keine Absprachen gab. •Ich habe Dianne Feinstein neulich im Fernsehen gesehen und sie hat gesagt, dass es keine Absprachen gibt. •Sie ist die Vorsitzende des Ausschusses. •Die Republikaner, in Bezug auf die Hauskomitees, kommen heraus, sie sind so wütend, weil es keine Absprachen gibt. •Ich glaube also, dass es sich entwickelt - ich glaube, es dreht zu den Demokraten, weil es im Namen der Demokraten Absprachen gab. •Es gab Absprachen mit den Russen und den Demokraten. •Viele Absprachen.
•SCHMIDT: Dossier?	•SCHMIDT: Dossier?
•TRUMP: Starting with the dossier. •But going into so many other elements. •And Podesta’s firm.	•TRUMP: Beginnend mit dem Dossier. •Aber es geht in so viele andere Elemente. •Und Podestas Firma.
•_________ SCHMIDT: That’s true. •But in terms of, the lawyers said it would be done by, your guys said, it would be done by Thanksgiving, it would be done by Christmas. •What are they telling you now? •What are they telling you?	•_________ SCHMIDT: Das stimmt. •Aber in Bezug darauf, dass die Anwälte sagten, es würde getan werden, sagten Ihre Jungs, es würde bis Thanksgiving getan werden, es würde bis Weihnachten getan werden. •Was sagen sie Ihnen jetzt? •Was sagen sie Ihnen?
•TRUMP: [Inaudible.] •There was tremendous collusion on behalf of the Russians and the Democrats. •There was no collusion with respect to my campaign. •I think I’ll be treated fairly. •Timing wise, I can’t tell you. •I just don’t know. •But I think we’ll be treated fairly.	•TRUMP: [Unhörbar.] •Im Namen der Russen und der Demokraten gab es viele Absprachen. •Es gab keine Absprachen in Bezug auf meine Kampagne. •Ich denke, ich werde fair behandelt werden. •Was die Zeit angeht, kann ich es Ihnen nicht sagen. •Ich weiß es einfach nicht. •Aber ich denke, wir werden fair behandelt werden.
•SCHMIDT: But you’re not worked up about the timing?	•SCHMIDT: Aber Sie sind nicht über das Timing aufgeregt?
•TRUMP: Well, I think it’s bad for the country. •The only thing that bothers me about timing, I think it’s a very bad thing for the country. •Because it makes the country look bad, it makes the country look very bad, and it puts the country in a very bad position. •So, the sooner it’s worked out, the better it is for the country.	•TRUMP: Nun, ich denke, es ist schlecht für das Land. •Das Einzige, was mich am Timing beunruhigt, ist, dass es eine sehr schlechte Sache für das Land ist. •Weil es das Land schlecht aussehen lässt; es lässt das Land sehr schlecht aussehen und es bringt das Land in eine sehr schlechte Position. •Also, je eher es ausgearbeitet ist, desto besser ist es für das Land.
•But there is tremendous collusion with the Russians and with the Democratic Party. •Including all of the stuff with the — and then whatever happened to the Pakistani guy, that had the two, you know, whatever happened to this Pakistani guy who worked with the D.N.C.?	•Aber es gibt eine immense Absprache mit den Russen und der Demokratischen Partei. •Einschließlich der ganzen Sachen mit dem - und dann, was auch immer dem pakistanischen Kerl passiert ist, der die zwei hatte, wissen Sie, was auch immer diesem pakistanischen Kerl geschehen ist, der mit dem D.N.C. arbeitete?
•Whatever happened to them? •With the two servers that they broke up into a million pieces? •Whatever happened to him? •That was a big story. •Now all of sudden [inaudible]. •So, I know The New York Times is going to — because those are real stories. •Whatever happened to the Hillary Clinton deleted 33,000 emails after she got [inaudible] — which you guys wrote, but then you dropped — was that you?	•Was in aller Welt ist mit ihnen geschehen? •Mit den beiden Servern, die sie in eine Million Teile zerlegt haben? •Was in aller Welt ist mit ihm geschehen? •Das war eine tolle Geschichte. •Nun urplötzlich [unhörbar]. •Also, ich weiß, die New York Times wird - denn das sind wahre Geschichten. •Was auch immer Hillary Clinton widerfahren ist, löschte 33.000 E-Mails nachdem sie zu [unhörbar] bekam - was ihr Typen geschrieben habt, aber dann habt ihr sie fallen gelassen - waren Sie das??
•SCHMIDT: You control the Justice Department. •Should they reopen that email investigation?	•SCHMIDT: Sie kontrollieren das Justizministerium. •Sollten sie diese Emailuntersuchung wieder eröffnen?
•TRUMP: What I’ve done is, I have absolute right to do what I want to do with the Justice Department. •But for purposes of hopefully thinking I’m going to be treated fairly, I’ve stayed uninvolved with this particular matter.	•TRUMP: Was ich getan habe ist, ich habe absolut Recht mit dem Justizministerium zu tun, was ich tun möchte. •Aber wegen der Hoffnung, dass ich fair behandelt werde, bin ich in dieser besonderen Angelegenheit unbeteiligt geblieben.
•TRUMP: For purposes of the Justice Department, I watched Alan Dershowitz the other day, who by the way, says I, says this is a ridiculous — SCHMIDT: He’s been very good to you.	•TRUMP: Für die Zwecke des Justizministeriums, ich beobachtete neulich Alan Dershowitz , der übrigens sagt, ich, sagt, dies ist eine lächerliche - SCHMIDT: Er war sehr gut zu Ihnen.
•TRUMP: He’s been amazing. •And he’s a liberal Democrat. •I don’t know him. •He’s a liberal Democrat. •I watched Alan Dershowitz the other day, he said, No. •1, there is no collusion, No. •2, collusion is not a crime, but even if it was a crime, there was no collusion. •And he said that very strongly. •He said there was no collusion. •And he has studied this thing very closely. •I’ve seen him a number of times. •There is no collusion, and even if there was, it’s not a crime. •But there’s no collusion. •I don’t even say [inaudible]. •I don’t even go that far.	•TRUMP: Er war erstaunlich. •Und er ist ein liberaler Demokrat. •Ich kenne ihn nicht. •Er ist ein liberaler Demokrat. •Ich beobachtete Alan Dershowitz neulich, er sagte: •1, es gibt keine geheime Absprache, nein. •2., eine geheime Absprache ist kein Verbrechen, aber sogar wenn es ein Verbrechen war, gab es keine geheime Absprache. •Und er sagte das sehr nachdrücklich. •Er sagte, es gab keine geheime Absprache. •Und er hat diese Sache hautnah untersucht. •Ich habe ihn einige Male gesehen. •Es gibt keine geheime Absprache, und sogar wenn es sie gab, ist es kein Verbrechen. •Aber es gibt keine geheime Absprache. •Ich sage überhaupt nicht [unhörbar]. •Ich gehe sogar nicht mal so weit.
•TRUMP: So, for the purposes of what’s going on with this phony Russian deal, which, by the way, you’ve heard me say it, is only an excuse for losing an election that they should have won, because it’s very hard for a Republican to win the Electoral College. •O.K.? •You start off with New York, California and Illinois against you. •That means you have to run the East Coast, which I did, and everything else. •Which I did and then won Wisconsin and Michigan. •[Inaudible.] •So, the Democrats. •… [Inaudible.] •… They thought there was no way for a Republican, not me, a Republican, to win the Electoral College. •Well, they’re [inaudible]. •They made the Russian story up as a hoax, as a ruse, as an excuse for losing an election that in theory Democrats should always win with the Electoral College. •The Electoral College is so much better suited to the Democrats [inaudible]. •But it didn’t work out that way. •And I will tell you they cannot believe that this became a story.	•TRUMP: Also, was mit dieser erfundenen russischen Abmachung passiert, was Sie mich übrigens sagen gehört haben, ist nur eine Entschuldigung dafür, eine Wahl zu verlieren, die sie hätten gewinnen sollen, weil es für einen Republikaner sehr schwer ist, das Wahlmännergremium zu gewinnen. •Einverstanden? •Sie beginnen mit New York, Kalifornien und Illinois gegen Sie. •Das bedeutet, dass Sie die Ostküste beherrschen müssen, was ich getan habe, und alles Übrige. •Was ich tat und dann gewann ich Wisconsin und Michigan. •(Unhörbar) •Also, die Demokraten. •....[Unhörbar.] •... Sie dachten, es gäbe keine Chance für einen Republikaner, nicht für mich, einen Republikaner, das Wahlmännerkollegium zu gewinnen. •Nun, sie sind [unhörbar]. •Sie machten die russische Geschichte zu einem Schwindel, als eine List, als eine Entschuldigung dafür, eine Wahl zu verlieren, die theoretisch Demokraten immer mit dem Wahlkollegium gewinnen sollten. •Das Wahlmännerkollegium ist für die Demokraten so viel besser geeignet [unhörbar]. •Aber es klappte so nicht. •Und ich werde Ihnen sagen, sie können nicht glauben, dass das eine Geschichte wurde.
•SCHMIDT: So, they had to do this to come after you, to undercut you?	•SCHMIDT: So mussten sie das tun, um nach Ihnen zu kommen, um Sie zu unterbieten?
•TRUMP: No, no, they thought it would be a one-day story, an excuse, and it just kept going and going and going. •It’s too bad Jeff recused himself. •I like Jeff, but it’s too bad he recused himself. •I thought. •… Many people will tell you that something is [inaudible].	•TRUMP: Nein, nein, sie dachten, es wäre eine eintägige Geschichte, eine Ausrede, und es ging einfach weiter und weiter. •Es ist zu schade, Jeff wurde wegen Voreingenommenheit abgelehnt. •Ich mag Jeff, aber es ist schade, er trat wegen Befangenheit zurück. •Dachte ich. •...Viele Leute werden Ihnen sagen, dass irgendetwas ist [unhörbar].
•SCHMIDT: Do you think Holder was more loyal to. •… TRUMP: I don’t want to get into loyalty, but I will tell you that, I will say this: Holder protected President Obama. •Totally protected him. •When you look at the I.R.S. •scandal, when you look at the guns for whatever, when you look at all of the tremendous, ah, real problems they had, not made-up problems like Russian collusion, these were real problems. •When you look at the things that they did, and Holder protected the president. •And I have great respect for that, I’ll be honest, I have great respect for that.	•SCHMIDT: Glauben Sie, Holder war loyaler gegenüber. •.... TRUMP: Ich will nicht in den Bereich der Loyalität einsteigen, aber ich werde es Ihnen mitteilen, ich werde dies sagen: Holder hat Präsident Obama geschützt. •Er hat ihn vollständig geschützt. •Wenn man das US Steueramt in Augenschein nimmt. •wenn man sich die Waffen ansieht, für was auch immer, wenn man sich all die gewaltigen, echten Probleme anschaut, die sie hatten, nicht erfundene Probleme wie russische Absprachen, das waren echte Probleme. •Wenn Sie sich die Dinge ansehen, die sie getan haben, und Holder beschützte den Präsidenten. •Und ich habe großen Respekt dafür, ich werde ehrlich sein, dafür habe ich großen Respekt.
•SCHMIDT: Tell me about what you were saying that the Democrats. •… [Inaudible.] •… Tell me about the Democrats on the tax bill, which you were telling me about. •Explain that to me, I thought that was interesting.	•SCHMIDT: Erzählen Sie mir, was Sie sagten, dass die Demokraten. •....[Unhörbar.] •... Erzählen Sie mir von den Demokraten bei der Vorlage für das Steuergesetz, von der Sie mir erzählt haben. •Erklären Sie mir das, ich hielt das für interessant.
•TRUMP: So. •… We started taxes. •And we don’t hear from the Democrats. •You know, we hear bullshit from the Democrats. •Like Joe Manchin. •Joe’s a nice guy.	•TRUMP: Also. •... Wir begannen mit Steuern. •Und wir hören nichts von den Demokraten. •Wissen Sie, wir hören Quatsch von den Demokraten. •So wie Joe Manchin. •Joe ist ein netter Typ.
•SCHMIDT: He is a very nice guy.	•SCHMIDT: Er ist ein sehr netter Typ.
•TRUMP: But he talks. •But he doesn’t do anything. •He doesn’t do. •“Hey, let’s get together, let’s do bipartisan.” I say, “Good, let’s go.” Then you don’t hear from him again. •I like Joe. •You know, it’s like he’s the great centrist. •But he’s really not a centrist. •And I think the people of West Virginia will see that. •He not a centrist. •… I’m the one that saved coal. •I’m the one that created jobs. •You know West Virginia is doing fantastically now.	•TRUMP: Aber er redet. •Aber er tut gar nichts. •Das tut er nicht. •"He, lasst uns zusammen kommen, arbeiten wir parteiübergreifend!" Ich sage: "Gut, machen wir." Dann hört man nichts mehr von ihm. •Ich mag Joe. •Wissen Sie, es ist, als wäre er der große Zentrist. •Aber er ist wirklich kein Zentrist. •Und ich denke, die Leute in West Virginia werden das sehen. •Er ist kein Zentrist. •...Ich bin derjenige, der die Kohle rettete. •Ich bin derjenige, der Jobs schuf. •Sie wissen, West Virginia geht es nun fantastisch.
•SCHMIDT: It’s a big. •… It’s a very popular place for you.	•SCHMIDT: Es ist groß. •... es ist ein sehr beliebter Ort für Sie.
•TRUMP: It’s the biggest turnaround. •West Virginia, their average, their G.D.P. •is the biggest turnaround after Texas. •Texas [inaudible]. •… The second percentage gain in G.D.P. •[Inaudible.] •And I won that state by 43 points against crooked Hillary Clinton. •And I’ll tell you, I think Joe, ah. •… I think there’s a lot of talk. •… A lot of talk. •I think we have four or five senators that [inaudible]. •Just so you understand, Alabama. •… I wasn’t for him. •I was for Strange.	•TRUMP: Es ist die größte Trendwende. •West Virginia, ihr Durchschnitt, ihr BIP (Bruttoinlandsprodukt). •ist die größte Trendwende nach Texas. •Texas [unhörbar]. •... Der zweite Prozentsatzzuwachs beim BIP. •[Unhörbar]. •Und ich gewann diesen Staat mit 43 Punkten gegen die betrügerische Hillary Clinton. •Und ich werde Ihnen erzählen, ich denke Joe, äh •... ich denke, es gibt eine Menge Gerede. •...Eine Menge Gerede. •Ich denke, wir haben vier oder fünf Senatoren, die [unhörbar]. •Nur damit Sie es verstehen, Alabama. •...ich war nicht für ihn. •Ich war für Strange.
•SCHMIDT: Do you think he should stop the recount? •You know he said that they’re. •… He was protesting the election today. •Moore.	•SCHMIDT: Meinen Sie, er sollte die Nachzählung stoppen? •Sie wissen, dass er das gesagt hat. •... Er protestierte heute gegen die Wahlung. •Moore.
•TRUMP: Well, I. •… Look. •… Let him do whatever he wants to do. •I was for Strange, and I brought Strange up 20 points. •Just so you understand. •When I endorsed him, he was in fifth place? •He went way up. •Almost 20 points. •But he fell a little short. •But I knew what I was doing. •Because I thought that. •… If you look at my rhetoric, I said the problem with Roy Moore is that he will lose the election. •I called it. •But as the head of the party, I have a choice: Do I endorse him or not? •I don’t know. •Um … SCHMIDT: Was it a mistake?	•TRUMP: Nun, ich. •... Sehen Sie. •... Lass ihn tun, was er will. •Ich war für Strange und ich brachte Strange 20 Punkte höher. •Nur damit Sie es verstehen. •Als ich ihn unterstützte, war er auf dem fünften Platz? •Er ging weit nach oben. •Fast 20 Punkte. •Aber er fiel ein wenig zurück. •Aber ich wusste, was ich tat. •Weil ich mir das gedacht habe. •... Wenn Sie sich meine Rhetorik ansehen, sagte ich, dass das Problem mit Roy Moore darin besteht, dass er die Wahl verlieren wird. •Ich habe es gesagt. •Aber als Vorsitzender der Partei habe ich die Wahl: Unterstütze ich ihn oder nicht? •Ich weiß es nicht. •Hm... SCHMIDT: War es ein Fehler?
•TRUMP: And by the way, when I endorsed him, he went up. •It was a much closer race.	•TRUMP: Und nebenbei bemerkt, als ich ihn unterstützte, ging es bei ihm berauf. •Es war ein viel knapperer Wettlauf.
•SCHMIDT: Was it a mistake to endorse him?	•SCHMIDT: War es ein Fehler, ihn zu unterstützen?
•TRUMP: I feel that I have to endorse Republicans as the head of the party. •So, I endorsed him. •It became a much closer race because of my endorsement. •People don’t say that. •They say, Oh, Donald Trump lost. •I didn’t lose, I brought him up a lot. •He was not the candidate that I thought was going to win. •If you look at my statements, you’ve seen them, I said, “Look, I’m for Luther Strange because I like him, but I’m also for Luther Strange because he’s going to win the election.” There wouldn’t have been an election. •He would have won by 25 points.	•TRUMP: Ich glaube, dass ich als Parteivorsitzender Republikaner unterstützen muss. •Also habe ich ihn unterstützt. •Es wurde ein viel knapperer Wettlauf aufgrund meiner Unterstützung. •Das sagen die Leute nicht. •Sie sagen:"Oh, Donald Trump hat verloren." •Ich habe nicht verloren, ich habe ihn immer wieder groß rausgebracht. •Er war nicht der Kandidat, von dem ich dachte, dass er gewinnen würde. •Wenn man sich meine Stellungnahmen betrachtet, Sie haben sie gesehen, sagte ich: "Sehen Sie, ich bin für Luther Strange, weil ich ihn schätze, aber ich bin auch für Luther Strange, weil er die Wahl gewinnen wird." Es wäre keine Wahl gewesen. •Er hätte mit 25 Punkten gewonnen.
•SCHMIDT: He would have won big?	•SCHMIDT: Er hätte den großen Sieg davongetragen?
•TRUMP: The problem with Roy Moore, and I said this, is that he’s going to lose the election. •I hope you can straighten that out. •Luther Strange was brought way up after my endorsement and he almost won. •But. •… Almost won. •… He lost by 7 points, 7 or 8 points. •And he was way behind. •Because of two things, you know, what happened. •… [Inaudible.] •… But I never thought Roy was going to win the election, but I felt. •… I never thought he was going to win the election, but I felt. •… And I said that very clearly. •… And I wish you would cover that, because frankly, I said, if Luther doesn’t win, Roy is going to lose the election. •I always felt Roy was going to lose the election. •But I endorsed him because I feel it’s my obligation as the head of the Republican Party to endorse him. •And you see how tight it was even to get a popular. •… In Republican circles, to get a very popular tax cut approved, actually reform. •Two votes. •Now we have one vote, all right?	•TRUMP:Das Problem mit Roy Moore ist, dass er die Wahl verlieren wird und ich sagte dies. •Ich hoffe, Sie können das in Ordnung bringen. •Luther Strange wurde nach meiner Bestätigung weit nach oben gebracht und er hätte fast gewonnen •Aber •....fast gewonnen. •....Er verlor um 7 Punkte, 7 oder 8 Punkte. •Und er war weit hinten. •Aus zwei Gründen, Sie wissen , was passierte. •... [Unhörbar.] •...Aber ich rechnete nie damit, dass Roy die Wahl gewinnen würde, aber ich fühlte es. •... Ich hätte nie gedacht, dass er die Wahl gewinnen würde, aber ich fühlte es. •...Und ich sagte das sehr klar. •...Und ich wünschte, Sie würden darüber berichten, denn ehrlich gesagt, sagte ich, wenn Luther nicht gewinnt, wird Roy die Wahl verlieren. •Ich hatte immer das Eindruck, dass Roy die Wahl verlieren würde. •Aber ich unterstützte ihn, weil ich der Meinung bin, dass es meine Pflicht als Vorsitzender der Republikanischen Partei ist, ihn zu unterstützen. •Und Sie sehen, wie knapp es war, eine populäre •.... In republikanischen Kreisen, eine sehr populäre Steuersenkung durchzusetzen, echte Reform. •Zwei Stimmen. •Jetzt haben wir eine Stimme, richtig?
•O.K., let’s get onto your final question, your other question. •Had the Democrats come through. •… SCHMIDT: Tell me about that, yeah.	•Gut, gehen wir zu Ihrer letzten Frage, Ihrer anderen Frage. •Wenn die Demokraten durchgekommen wären. •... SCHMIDT: Erzählen Sie darüber, ja.
•TRUMP: Had they asked, “Let’s do a bipartisan,” Michael, I would have done bipartisan. •I would absolutely have done bipartisan.	•TRUMP: Hätten sie gefragt, "Lasst es uns parteiübergreifend machen", Michael, ich hätte es parteilübergreifend durchgeführt. •Ich hätte absolut überparteilich gehandelt.
•SCHMIDT: But they didn’t. •… They didn’t … TRUMP: And if I did bipartisan, I would have done something with SALT [the state and local tax deduction]. •With that being said, you look back, Ronald Reagan wanted to take deductibility away from states. •Ronald Reagan, years ago, and he couldn’t do it. •Because New York had a very powerful group of people. •Which they don’t have today. •Today, they don’t have the same representatives. •You know, in those days they had Lew Rudin and me. •… I fought like hell for that. •They had a lot of very good guys. •Lew Rudin was very effective. •He worked hard for New York. •And we had some very good senators. •… You know, we had a lot of people who fought very hard against, let’s call it SALT. •Had they come to me and said, look, we’ll do this, this, this, we’ll do [inaudible]. •I could have done something with SALT. •Or made it less severe. •But they were very ineffective. •They were very, very ineffective. •You understand what I mean. •Had they come to me for a bipartisan tax bill, I would have gone to Mitch, and I would have gone to the other Republicans, and we could have worked something out bipartisan. •And that could’ve been either a change to SALT or knockout of SALT.	•SCHMIDT: Aber das haben sie nicht. •... Sie haben nicht ... TRUMP: Und wenn ich überparteilich gehandelt hätte, hätte ich etwas mit SALT [dem staatlichen und lokalen Steuerabzug] gemacht. •Davon abgesehen, wenn Sie zurückblicken, wollte Ronald Reagan Abzugsfähigkeit von Staaten wegnehmen. •Ronald Reagan, Jahre zuvor, und er konnte es nicht machen. •Da New York eine sehr mächtige Personengruppe hatte. •Die sie heute nicht mehr haben. •Heute haben sie nicht die gleichen Repräsentanten. •Sie wissen, in jenen Tagen hatten sie Lew Rudin und mich. •... Ich kämpfte wie die Hölle dafür. •Sie hatten eine Menge sehr guter Typen. •Lew Rudin war sehr effektiv. •Er arbeitete hart für New York. •Und wir hatten einige sehr gute Senatoren. •...Bekanntlich hatten wir ein Menge Leute, die sehr schwer gekämpft haben, gegen ...nennen wir es SALT. •Wenn sie zu mir gekommen wären und gesagt hätten, schau, wir werden das, das, das machen, wir werden machen [unhörbar]. •Ich hätte etwas mit SALT machen können. •Oder es weniger einschneidend gemacht. •Aber sie waren sehr erfolglos. •Sie waren völlig erfolglos. •Sie verstehen, was ich meine. •Wären sie zu mir gekommen, wegen eines parteiübergreifenden Steuergesetzes, wäre ich zu Mitch gegangen und ich wäre zu den anderen Republikanern gegangen und wir hätten etwas Parteiübergreifendes ausarbeiten können. •Und das hätte entweder eine Änderung von SALT oder das Aus von SALT sein können.
•But, just so you understand, Ronald Reagan wanted to take deductibility away and he was unable to do it. •Ronald Reagan wanted to have ANWR approved 40 years ago and he was unable to do it. •Think of that. •And the individual mandate is the most unpopular thing in Obamacare, and I got rid of it. •You know, we gained with the individual. •… You know the individual mandate, Michael, means you take money and you give it to the government for the privilege of not having to pay more money to have health insurance you don’t want. •There are people who had very good health insurance that now are paying not to have health insurance. •That’s what the individual mandate. •… They’re not going to have to pay anymore. •So, when people think that will be unpopular. •… It’s going to be very popular. •It’s going to be very popular.	•Aber, nur damit Sie verstehen, Ronald Reagan wollte die Abzugsfähigkeit abschaffen und er war nicht in der Lage, es zu erreichen. •Ronald Reagan wollte ANWR vor 40 Jahren genehmigt haben und er war nicht in der Lage, dies zu erreichen. •Denken Sie daran. •Und der individuelle Auftrag ist die unbeliebteste Sache in Obamacare und ich bin ihn losgeworden. •Sie wissen, dass wir mit dem Individuum gewonnen haben. •... Sie wissen, Michael, das individuelle Mandat bedeutet, dass Sie Geld nehmen und es der Regierung für das Privileg geben, nicht mehr Geld bezahlen zu müssen, um eine Krankenversicherung zu haben, die Sie nicht wollen. •Es gibt Leute, die eine sehr gute Krankenversicherung hatten, die jetzt bezahlen, damit sie keine Krankenversicherung haben. •Das ist es, was das individuelle Mandat. •...Sie werden nicht weiter zahlen müssen. •Also, wenn Leute glauben, dass dies unpopulär sein wird. •...Es wird sehr populär sein. •Es wird sehr populär sein.
•Now, in my opinion, they should come to me on infrastructure. •They should come to me, which they have come to me, on DACA. •We are working. •… We’re trying to something about it. •And they should definitely come to me on health care. •Because we can do bipartisan health care. •We can do bipartisan infrastructure. •And we can do bipartisan DACA.	•Meines Erachtens sollten sie jetzt zur mir wegen der Infrastuktur kommen. •Sie sollten zu mir kommen, wie sie wegen DACA zu mir gekommen sind. •Wir arbeiten. •... Wir versuchen, etwas dafür zu tun. •Und sie sollten definitiv zu mir kommen, wenn es um die Gesundheitsvorsorge geht. •Weil wir parteiübergreifende Gesundheitsfürsorge machen können. •Wir können eine parteiübergreifende Infrastruktur aufbauen. •Und wir können parteiübergreifend DACA machen.
•SCHMIDT: What are you willing to do on infrastructure? •How far are you willing to go? •How much money?	•SCHMIDT: Was sind Sie willens, bei der Infrastruktur zu tun? •Wie weit sind Sie bereit zu gehen? •Wieviel Geld?
•TRUMP: I actually think we can get as many Democrat votes as we have Republican. •Republicans want to see infrastructure. •Michael, we have spent, as of about a month ago, $7 trillion in the Middle East. •And the Middle East is worse than it was 17 years ago. •… [Inaudible.] •$7 trillion. •And if you want $12 to fix up a road or a highway, you can’t get it. •I want to do a trillion-dollar infrastructure bill, at least. •We want to fix our roads, our highways, our bridges, which are in bad shape. •And you know some of them are actually, they’re x-ed out, they have, you know, possibilities of collapse under bad circumstances. •And in 10 years they will collapse. •So, I want a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. •I think it can be bipartisan. •I believe we can do health care in a bipartisan way, because now we’ve essentially gutted and ended Obamacare.	•TRUMP: Ich denke tatsächlich, dass wir so viele demokratische Stimmen bekommen können, wie wir Republikaner haben. •Republikaner wollen Infrastruktur sehen. •Michael, wir haben nach dem Stand von vor etwa einem Monat 7 Billionen Dollar in Nahost ausgegeben. •Und der Nahe Osten ist schlimmer, als er vor 17 Jahren war. •...[unhörbar.] •7 Billionen Dollar. •Und wenn man 12 Dollar will, um eine Straße oder einen Highway in Ordnung zu bringen, bekommt man sie nicht. •Ich will mindestens einen Billionen-Dollar-Infrastruktur Gesetzentwurf machen. •Wir wollen unsere Straßen, unsere Fernstraßen, unsere Brücken, die in schlechtem Zustand sind, in Ordnung bringen. •Und Sie wissen, einige von ihnen sind tatsächlich, sie sind gestrichen, sie könnten unter ungünstigen Umständen bekanntlich zusammenbrechen. •Und in 10 Jahren werden sie zusammenbrechen. •Deshalb möchte ich einen Trillionen- Dollar-Infrastrukturplan. •Ich denke, es kann parteiübergreifend sein. •Ich glaube, wir können das Gesundheitswesen parteiübergreifend gestalten, da wir jetzt im Grunde Obamacare ausgenommen und beendet haben.
•[Cross talk.]	•[Nebensprechen.]
•SCHMIDT: But what’s the goal? •What’s the goal?	•SCHMIDT: Aber was ist das Ziel? •Was ist das Ziel?
•TRUMP: Wait, wait, let me just tell you. •… Also, beyond the individual mandate, but also [inaudible] associations. •You understand what the associations are. •… [Cross talk.]	•TRUMP: Warten Sie, warten Sie, lassen Sie es mich einfach sagen. •... Auch über das individuelle Mandat hinaus, aber auch [unhörbar] Verbände. •Sie verstehen, was die Verbände sind. •... {Nebensprechen.]
•TRUMP: So now I have associations, I have private insurance companies coming and will sell private health care plans to people through associations. •That’s gonna be millions and millions of people. •People have no idea how big that is. •And by the way, and for that, we’ve ended across state lines. •So, we have competition. •You know for that I’m allowed to [inaudible] state lines. •So that’s all done.	•TRUMP: Also ich habe jetzt Verbände, ich habe private Versicherungsgesellschaften und werde durch Verbände Pläne zur privaten Gesundheitsvorsorge an die Menschen verkaufen. •Das werden Millionen und Abermillionen von Menschen sein. •Die Leute haben keine Ahnung, wie groß das ist. •Und dafür sind wir übrigens über Staatsgrenzen hinaus gelangt. •Also haben wir Wettbewerb. •Bekanntlich darf ich dafür [unhörbar] Staatsgrenzen. •Also das ist alles erledigt.
•Now I’ve ended the individual mandate. •And the other thing I wish you’d tell people. •So, when I do this, and we’ve got health care, you know, McCain did his vote. •… But what we have. •I had a hundred congressmen that said no and I was able to talk them into it. •They’re great people.	•Jetzt habe ich das individuelle Mandat beendet. •Und das andere, was ich wünschte, Sie würden es den Leuten sagen. •Also, wenn ich das tue, und wir haben die Gesundheitsvorsorge, wissen Sie, McCain hat seine Stimme abgegeben. •... Aber was wir haben. •Ich hatte hundert Kongressabgeordnete, die nein sagten und ich konnte sie dazu überreden. •Sie sind großartige Leute.
•Two things: No. •1, I have unbelievably great relationships with 97 percent of the Republican congressmen and senators. •I love them and they love me. •That’s No. •1. •And No. •2, I know more about the big bills. •… [Inaudible.] •… Than any president that’s ever been in office. •Whether it’s health care and taxes. •Especially taxes. •And if I didn’t, I couldn’t have persuaded a hundred. •… You ask Mark Meadows [inaudible]. •… I couldn’t have persuaded a hundred congressmen to go along with the bill. •The first bill, you know, that was ultimately, shockingly rejected.	•Zwei Sachen: Nr. •1. ich habe unglaublich gute Beziehungen zu 97 Prozent der republikanischen Kongressabgeordneten und Senatoren. •Ich liebe sie und sie lieben mich. •Das ist Nr. •1. •Und Nr. •2, Ich kenne die großen Gesetzesvorschläge besser. •... [Unhörbar.] •... als jeder Präsident, der jemals im Amt war. •Ob es um Gesundheitspflege und Steuern geht. •Vor allem Steuern. •Und wenn ich es nicht getan hätte, hätte ich hundert nicht überzeugen können. •... Fragen Sie Mark Meadows [unhörbar]. •... Ich hätte nicht hundert Kongressabgeordnete dazu bringen können, dem Gesetzesvorschlag zu folgen. •Schockierenderweise wurde der erste Gesetzesvorschlag, wie Sie wissen, letztendlich zurückgewiesen.
•I’ll tell you something [inaudible]. •… Put me on the defense, I was a great student and all this stuff. •Oh, he doesn’t know the details, these are sick people.	•Ich werde Ihnen etwas [unhörbar] sagen. •... Lass mich mich verteidigen, ich war ein großartiger Student und all das Zeug •Ach, er kennt die Einzelheiten nicht, das sind kranke Leute.
•So, the taxes. •… [Inaudible.] •… The tax cut will be, the tax bill, prediction, will be far bigger than anyone imagines. •Expensing will be perhaps the greatest of all provisions. •Where you can do something, you can buy something. •… Piece of equipment. •… You can do lots of different things, and you can write it off and expense it in one year. •That will be one of the great stimuli in history. •You watch. •That’ll be one of the big. •… People don’t even talk about expensing, what’s the word “expensing.” [Inaudible.] •One-year expensing. •Watch the money coming back into the country, it’ll be more money than people anticipate.	•Also, die Steuern. •...[Unhörbar.] •...Die Steuersenkung wird kommen, das Steueraufkommen, Prognose, wird weit größer sein als sich irgendeiner vorstellt. •Der Aufwand wird vielleicht der größte aller Vorkehrungen sein. •Wo du etwas tun kannst, kannst du etwas kaufen. •...Ausrüstungsgegenstand. •... Sie können viele verschiedene Dinge tun, und Sie können es abschreiben und es in einem Jahr als Aufwand verbuchen. •Das wird einer der großen Impulse in der Geschichte sein. •Schauen Sie zu. •Das wird einer der großen. •... Die Leute reden nicht mal über Aufwandsverbuchung, was ist das Wort "Aufwandsverbuchung"? (Unhörbar) •Ein-Jahres-Aufwand. •Beobachten Sie das Geld, das zurück ins Land kommt, es wird mehr Geld sein, als die Leute prognostizieren.
•But Michael, I know the details of taxes better than anybody. •Better than the greatest C.P.A. •I know the details of health care better than most, better than most. •And if I didn’t, I couldn’t have talked all these people into doing ultimately only to be rejected.	•Aber Michael, ich kenne die Steuerdetails besser als irgendjemand. •Besser als der beste C.P.A. •Ich kenne die Details des Gesundheitswesens besser als die meisten, besser als die meisten. •Und wenn nicht, hätte ich alle diese Leute nicht überreden können es zu tun, letztlich nur um abgewiesen zu werden.
•Now here’s the good news. •We’ve created associations, millions of people are joining associations. •Millions. •That were formerly in Obamacare or didn’t have insurance. •Or didn’t have health care. •Millions of people. •That’s gonna be a big bill, you watch. •It could be as high as 50 percent of the people. •You watch. •So that’s a big thing. •And the individual mandate. •So now you have associations, and people don’t even talk about the associations. •That could be half the people are going to be joining up. •… With private [inaudible]. •So now you have associations and the individual mandate.	•Hier ist nun die gute Nachricht. •Wir haben Verbände geschaffen, Millionen von Menschen treten den Verbänden bei. •Millionen. •Die waren früher bei Obamacare oder hatten keine Versicherung. •Oder hatten keine Krankenversicherung. •Millionen von Menschen. •Das wird eine hohe Rechnung, Sie werden es erleben. •Sie kann so hoch wie 50 Prozent der Leute sein. •Sie werden es sehen •Also ist es ein großes Ding. •Und der individuelle Auftrag. •So, jetzt hat man Verbände und die Leute reden nicht einmal über die Verbände. •Das könnte die Hälfte der Leute sein, die dazustoßen werden. •.... mit privatem [unhörbar]. •Jetzt haben sie Verbände und das individuelle Mandat.
•I believe that because of the individual mandate and the associations, the Democrats will and certainly should come to me and see if they can do a really great health care plan for the remaining people. •[Inaudible.]	•Ich glaube, dass wegen des individuellen Mandats und der Vereinigungen für Krankenversicherung die Demokraten zu mir kommen werden, und sie dies gewiss tun sollten, um festzustellen, ob sie einen wirklich tollen Gesundheitsplan für die übrigen Leute erstellen können. •[unhörbar.]
•SCHMIDT: And you think you can do it?	•Und Sie denken, Sie können es tun?
•TRUMP: Well, we’re perfectly set up to do it. •See, it was hard for them to do it as long as the individual mandate existed. •But now that the individual mandate is officially killed, people have no idea how big a deal that was. •It’s the most unpopular part of Obamacare. •But now, Obamacare is essentially. •… You know, you saw this. •… It’s basically dead over a period of time.	•Na ja, wir sind bestens vorbereitet, um es zu tun. •Sehen Sie, es war schwierig für sie, es zu tun, solange das individuelle Mandat vorhanden war. •Aber jetzt, da das individuelle Mandat offiziell abgeschafft wurde, haben die Menschen keine Ahnung, wie groß dieses Problem war. •Es ist der unpopulärste Teil von Obamacare. •Aber jetzt ist Obamacare im Kern. •...Sie wissen Bescheid, Sie haben das mitbekommen. •...Es ist im Grunde genommen für einen bestimmten Zeitraum tot.
•SCHMIDT: Yeah.	•SCHMIDT: Ja, klar.
•TRUMP: But the Democrats should come to a bipartisan bill. •And we can fix it. •We can fix it. •We can make a great health care plan. •Not Obamacare, which was a bad plan. •We can make a great health care plan through bipartisanship. •We can do a great infrastructure plan through bipartisanship. •And we can do on immigration, and DACA in particular, we can do something that’s terrific through bipartisanship.	•TRUMP: Aber die Demokraten sollten zu einem parteiübergreifenden Gesetzentwurf kommen. •Und wir können es vereinbaren. •Wir können es vereinbaren. •Wir können einen ausgezeichneten Plan für die Gesundheitsvorsorge machen. •Nicht Obamacare, was ein schlechter Plan war. •Wir können durch Überparteilichkeit einen tollen Gesundheitsplan erstellen. •Wir können durch Überparteilichkeit einen großartigen Infrastrukturplan machen. •Wir können etwas in Bezug auf Einwanderung und besonders DACA verwirklichen, wir können etwas, was durch Überparteilichkeit toll ist, verwirklichen.
•SCHMIDT: It sounds like you’re tacking to the center in a way you didn’t before.	•SCHMIDT: Es klingt, als würden Sie auf eine Art und Weise, wie Sie es noch nie zuvor gemacht haben, in die Mitte lavieren.
•TRUMP: No, I’m not being centered. •I’m just being practical. •No, I don’t think I’m changing. •Look, I wouldn’t do a DACA plan without a wall. •Because we need it. •We see the drugs pouring into the country, we need the wall.	•Trump: Nein, ich werde nicht zentriert. •Ich bin nur praktisch. •Nein, ich glaube nicht, dass ich mich verändere. •Sehen Sie, ich würde keinen DACA-Plan ohne eine Mauer machen. •Weil wir sie brauchen. •Wir sehen die Drogen, die ins Land strömen, wir brauchen die Mauer.
•SCHMIDT: So, you’re not moving. •You’re saying I’m more likely to do deals, but I’m not moving.	•SCHMIDT: Also, Sie bewegen sich nicht. •Sie sagen, ich bin eher zu Deals bereit, aber ich bewege mich nicht.
•TRUMP: I’m always moving. •I’m moving in both directions. •We have to get rid of chainlike immigration, we have to get rid of the chain. •The chain is the last guy that killed. •… [Talking with guests.] •… The last guy that killed the eight people. •… [Inaudible.] •… So badly wounded people. •… Twenty-two people came in through chain migration. •Chain migration and the lottery system. •They have a lottery in these countries.	•TRUMP: Ich bewege mich immer. •Ich bewege mich in beide Richtungen. •Wir müssen die kettenartige Einwanderung loswerden, wir müssen die Kette loswerden. •Die Folge ist der letzte Kerl, der getötet hat. •… [Spricht mit Gästen.] •... Der letzte Kerl, der die acht Menschen getötet hat. •...[Unhörbar.] •...so schwer Verwundete. •... Zweiundzwanzig Leute kamen durch Kettenmigration herein. •Kettenmigration und das Losverfahren. •Sie haben eine Lotterie in diesen Ländern.
•They take the worst people in the country, they put ‘em into the lottery, then they have a handful of bad, worse ones, and they put them out. •‘Oh, these are the people the United States. •…” … We’re gonna get rid of the lottery, and by the way, the Democrats agree with me on that. •On chain migration, they pretty much agree with me.	•Sie nehmen die schlimmsten Leute des Landes, sie tun sie in die Lotterie, dann haben sie eine Handvoll von schlechten, schlechteren, und die nehmen sie 'raus. •"Oh, das sind die Menschen in den Vereinigten Staaten." •...Wir müssen die Lotterie loswerden, und übrigens, die Demokraten sind da meiner Meinung. •Wegen der Kettenmigration, sie sind da sehr meiner Meinung.
•[Cross talk with guests.]	•[Wortwechsel mit Gästen.]
•CHRISTOPHER RUDDY, the president and chief executive of Newsmax: Canada, U.K., Australia. •… All do best and brightest. •… TRUMP: Yeah, they have a merit system, we’ll eventually go to a merit-based system. •When we bring people in. •… That No. •1, don’t need our resources and No. •2, have great capabilities.	•CHRISTOPHER RUDDY, der Präsident und Geschäftsführer von Newsmax: Kanada, Großbritannien, Australien. •... Alle machen das Beste und Intelligenteste. •... TRUMP: Ja, sie haben ein Verdienstsystem, wir werden letzendlich zu einem leistungsorientierten System übergehen. •Wenn wir Leute hereinbringen. •...die erstens •unsere Ressourcen nicht brauchen und •zweitens großartige Fähigkeiten haben.
•SCHMIDT: Do you think I’m wrong to think next year could be the year of you being a real deal maker, in a way you maybe weren’t in the past year?	•Denken Sie, dass ich mich irre, zu glauben, dass nächstes Jahr das Jahr sein könnte, in dem Sie ein wirklicher Dealmaker in einer Weise werden, in der Sie es vielleicht im letztem Jahr nicht waren?
•TRUMP: I was. •I make deals with the Republicans. •I had nobody to make a deal with the Democrats. •The Democrats could have made a much better tax deal for Democrats if they came to see us, but they didn’t come. •They never thought I’d be able to get this over the line. •And especially when McCain, when John McCain left and went to Arizona, they thought they had it made.	•TRUMP: War ich. •Ich treffe Abmachungen mit den Republikanern. •Ich hatte niemanden, um ein Abkommen mit den Demokraten zu machen. •Die Demokraten hätten ein sehr viel besseres Steuerabkommen für Demokraten machen können, wenn sie zu uns gekommen wären, aber sie kamen nicht. •Sie dachten nie, dass es mir gelingen könnte, die Verabschiedung des Steuergesetzes zu veranlassen. •Und insbesonde als McCain, als John McCain nach Arizona ging, dachten sie, sie hätten es gemacht.
•SCHMIDT: Explain your North Korea tweet to me today.	•SCHMIDT: Erklären Sie mir heute Ihren Nordkorea-Tweet.
•TRUMP: Which one?	•TRUMP: Welcher?
•SCHMIDT: You said about the oil, that China. •… [Cross talk.]	•SCHMIDT: Sie sagten über das Öl, dass China... •[Wortwechsel.]
•SCHMIDT: What’s going on there. •Tell me about that.	•SCHMIDT: Was ist da los? •Erzählen Sie mir darüber.
•TRUMP: Yeah, China. •… China’s been. •… I like very much President Xi. •He treated me better than anybody’s ever been treated in the history of China. •You know that. •The presentations. •… One of the great two days of anybody’s life and memory having to do with China. •He’s a friend of mine, he likes me, I like him, we have a great chemistry together. •He’s [inaudible] of the United States. •…[Inaudible.] •China’s hurting us very badly on trade, but I have been soft on China because the only thing more important to me than trade is war. •O.K.?	•TRUMP: Ja, China. •.... China war. •... Ich mag Präsident Xi sehr gern. •Er behandelte mich besser als irgendjemand jemals in der Geschichte Chinas. •Sie wissen das. •Die Ehrungen. •... Einer der zwei großen Tage in jemandes Leben und Erinnerung im Zusammenhang mit China. •Er ist ein Freund von mir, er mag mich, ich mag ihn, wir haben eine großartige Chemie zusammen. •Er ist [unhörbar] der Vereinigten Staaten... •[unhörbar.] •China schadet uns sehr stark im Handelsgeschäft, aber ich bin nachsichtig gegenüber China gewesen, denn die einzige Sache, die für mich wichtiger ist als Handel, ist Krieg. •In Ordnung?
•[Cross talk with guests.]	•[Wortwechsel mit Gästen.]
•SCHMIDT: Can you finish your thought on North Korea. •What’s going on with China?	•SCHMIDT: Können Sie Ihren Gedanken über Nordkorea beenden? •Was passiert mit China?
•TRUMP: I’m disappointed. •You know that they found oil going into. •… SCHMIDT: But how recently?	•TRUMP: Ich bin enttäuscht. •Bekanntlich hat man herausgefunden das Öl hineingeht... •SCHMIDT: Aber wie kürzlich?
•TRUMP: It was very recently. •In fact, I hate to say, it was reported this morning, and it was reported on Fox. •Oil is going into North Korea. •That wasn’t my deal!	•TRUMP: Es war in jüngster Zeit. •In der Tat, ich hasse es zu sagen, es wurde heute Morgen berichtet, und es wurde auf Fox berichtet. •Öl geht nach Nordkorea hinein. •Das war nicht mein Deal!
•SCHMIDT: What was the deal?	•SCHMIDT: Was war der Deal?
•TRUMP: My deal was that, we’ve got to treat them rough. •They’re a nuclear menace so we have to be very tough.	•TRUMP: Mein Deal war, dass wir sie grob behandeln müssen. •Sie sind eine nukleare Bedrohung, also müssen wir sehr hart sein.
•RUDDY: Mr. President, was that a picture from recent or was that months ago? •I don’t know. •… TRUMP: Oil is going into North Korea, I know. •Oil is going into North Korea. •So, I’m not happy about it.	•RUDDY: Mr. President, war das ein jüngeres Bild oder war das Monate her? •Ich weiß es nicht... •TRUMP: Öl geht nach Nordkorea hinein, ich weiß. •Öl geht nach Nordkorea hinein. •Also, ich bin darüber nicht froh.
•SCHMIDT: So, what are you going to do?	•SCHMIDT: Also, was werden Sie tun?
•TRUMP: We’ll see. •That I can’t tell you, Michael. •But we’ll see. •I can tell you one thing: This is a problem that should have been handled for the last 25 years. •This is a problem, North Korea. •That should have been handled for 25, 30 years, not by me. •This should have been handled long before me. •Long before this guy has whatever he has.	•TRUMP: Wir werden sehen. •Das kann ich Ihnen nicht sagen, Michael. •Aber wir werden sehen. •Ich kann Ihnen eine Sache sagen: Dies ist ein Problem, das in den letzten 25 Jahren hätte behandelt werden sollen. •Dies ist ein Problem, Nordkorea. •Das hätte seit 25, 30 Jahren verhandelt werden sollen, nicht von mir. •Dies hätte lange vor mir abgearbeitet werden müssen. •Lange bevor dieser Kerl hat, was auch immer er hat.
•SCHMIDT: Do you think we’ve been too soft on China on North Korea?	•SCHMIDT: Denken Sie, wir sind zu weich gewesen zu China, zu Nordkorea?
•TRUMP: No, look, I like China, and I like him a lot. •But, as you know, when I campaigned, I was very tough on China in terms of trade. •They made — last year, we had a trade deficit with China of $350 billion, minimum. •That doesn’t include the theft of intellectual property, O.K., which is another $300 billion. •So, China — and you know, somebody said, oh, currency manipulation. •If they’re helping me with North Korea, I can look at trade a little bit differently, at least for a period of time. •And that’s what I’ve been doing. •But when oil is going in, I’m not happy about that. •I think I expressed that in probably [inaudible].	•TRUMP: Nein, sehen Sie, ich mag China and ich mag ihn sehr. •Aber wie Sie wissen, war ich während der Kampagne in Handelsbedingungen sehr hart zu China. •Sie machten - letztes Jahr hatten wir ein Handelsdefizit mit China von $ 350 Milliarden, mindestens. •Das beinhaltet nicht den Diebstahl geistigen Eigentums, klar? Das sind weitere $ 300 Milliarden. •Also China - und bekanntlich sagte jemand: oh, Währungsmanipulation. •Wenn sie mir mit Nordkorea helfen, kann ich den Handel etwas anders betrachten, zumindest für eine gewisse Zeit. •Und genau das habe ich getan. •Aber wenn Öl reingeht, bin ich darüber nicht glücklich. •Ich denke, ich habe das ausgedrückt in wahrscheinlich [unhörbar].
•TRUMP, as aides walk by: And, by the way, it’s not a tweet. •It’s social media, and it gets out in the world, and the reason I do well is that I can be treated unfairly and very dishonestly by CNN, and, you know, I have — what do have now, John, 158 million, including Facebook, including Twitter, including Instagram, including every form, I have a 158 million people. •Reporting just this morning, they said 158 million. •So, if they a do a story that’s false, I can do something — otherwise, Andy, otherwise you just sort of walk around saying what can I do? •What, am I going to have a press conference every time somebody, every time Michael writes something wrong?	•TRUMP, als Helfer vorbeigehen: Und übrigens, es ist kein Tweet. •Es sind die Sozialen Medien, und es geht raus in die Welt, und der Grund weshalb ich es gut mache ist, dass ich unfair und sehr verlogen durch CNN behandelt werden kann, und Sie wissen, ich habe - was habe ich jetzt John? 158 Millionen, einschließlich Facebook, einschließlich Twitter, einschließlich Instagram, einschließlich jeder Form, ich habe 158 Millionen Leute. •Erst heute Morgen meldeten sie 158 Millionen. •Also, wenn sie eine Story machen, die unwahr ist, kann ich etwas tun - andernfalls, Andy, andernfalls läuft man mehr oder weniger herum und sagt, was kann ich tun? •Was? Werde ich jedes Mal eine Pressekonferenz abhalten, jedes Mal wenn jemand, jedesmal wenn Michael etwas Falsches schreibt?
•So, China on trade has ripped off this country more than any other element of the world in history has ripped off anything. •But I can be different if they’re helping us with North Korea. •If they don’t help us with North Korea, then I do what I’ve always said I want to do. •China can help us much more, and they have to help us much more. •And they have to help us much more. •We have a nuclear menace out there, which is no good for China, and it’s not good for Russia. •It’s no good for anybody. •Does that make sense?	•Also, China hat im Bereich des Handels dieses Land mehr abgezockt, als jeder andere Teil der Welt in der Geschichte irgendetwas abgezockt hat. •Aber ich kann anders sein, wenn sie uns mit Nordkorea helfen. •Wenn sie uns nicht bei Nordkorea helfen, dann tue ich, was ich immer gesagt habe, dass ich tun will. •China kann uns viel mehr helfen und sie müssen uns viel mehr helfen. •Und sie müssen uns viel mehr helfen. •Wir haben eine nukleare Bedrohung da draußen, die nicht gut für China ist, und sie ist nicht gut für Russland. •Sie ist für niemanden gut. •Macht das Sinn?
•SCHMIDT: Yeah, yeah, it makes a lot of sense.	•SCHMIDT: Ja, na klar, es macht eine Menge Sinn.
•TRUMP: The only thing that supersedes trade to me — because I’m the big trade guy, I got elected to a certain extent on trade. •You see, I’m renegotiating Nafta, or I’ll terminate it. •If I don’t make the right deal, I’ll terminate Nafta in two seconds. •But we’re doing pretty good. •You know, it’s easier to renegotiate it if we make it a fair deal because Nafta was a terrible deal for us. •We lost $71 billion a year with Mexico, can you believe it? •$17 billion with Canada — Canada says we broke even. •But they don’t include lumber and they don’t include oil. •Oh, that’s not. •… [Inaudible,] … My friend Justin he says, “No, no, we break even.” I said, ‘Yeah, but you’re not including oil, and you’re not including lumber.” When you do, you lose $17 billion, and with the other one, we’re losing $71 billion. •So, the only thing that supersedes trade to me is war. •If we can solve the North Korea problem. •China cannot. •… SCHMIDT: You still think there’s a diplomatic solution?	•TRUMP: Die einzige Sache, die für mich Handel ersetzt - denn ich bin ein großer Handels-Kerl, ich wurde in gewissem Maße wegen des Handels gewählt. •Sehen Sie, ich verhandle neu über NAFTA oder ich werde es beenden. •Falls ich nicht den richtigen Deal mache, werde ich NAFTA in zwei Sekunden für nichtig erklären. •Aber wir machen das ganz gut. •Wissen Sie, es ist einfacher, es neu zu verhandeln, wenn wir es zu einem gerechten Abkommen machen, denn Nafta war ein furchtbares Abkommen für uns. •Wir haben wegen Mexiko 71 Milliarden Dollar pro Jahr verloren, ist das zu fassen? •17 Milliarden Dollar wegen Kanada - Kanada sagt, wir hätten eine ausgeglichene Handelsbilanz gehabt, •Aber sie zählen Bauholz und Öl nicht mit. •Oh, das ist nicht ... •... [unhörbar] ... Mein Freund Justin sagt: "Nein, nein wir haben eine ausgeglichene Bilanz." Ich sagte: "Ja, aber Sie zählen das Öl und das Bauholz nicht dazu." Wenn Sie beides gegenrechnen, haben Sie $ 17 Milliarden Mindereinnahmen (wegen dem Öl) und wir mit dem Bauholz $ 71 Milliarden Mindereinnahmen. ... •Also, die einzige Sache, die Handel für mich ersetzt, ist Krieg. •Wenn wir das Nordkoreaproblem lösen können. •China kann es nicht. •.....SCHMIDT: Denken Sie immer noch, dass es eine diplomatische Lösung gibt?
•TRUMP: China has a tremendous power over North Korea. •Far greater than anyone knows.	•TRUMP: China hat eine enorme Macht über Nordkorea. •Viel größer als irgendjemand weiß.
•SCHMIDT: Why haven’t they stood up?	•SCHMIDT: Warum haben sie ihnen kein Paroli geboten?
•TRUMP: I hope they do, but as of this moment, they haven’t. •They could be much stronger.	•TRUMP: Ich hoffe, dass sie das tun, aber bis zu diesem Zeitpunkt haben sie es nicht. •Sie könnten viel stärker sein.
•SCHMIDT: But why not?	•SCHMIDT: Aber warum nicht?
•TRUMP: China can solve the North Korea problem, and they’re helping us, and they’re even helping us a lot, but they’re not helping us enough.	•TRUMP: China kann das Nordkorea-Problem beheben, und sie helfen uns, und sie helfen uns sogar häufig, aber sie helfen uns nicht genug.
•TRUMP: We’re going to win another four years for a lot of reasons, most importantly because our country is starting to do well again and we’re being respected again. •But another reason that I’m going to win another four years is because newspapers, television, all forms of media will tank if I’m not there because without me, their ratings are going down the tubes. •Without me, The New York Times will indeed be not the failing New York Times, but the failed New York Times. •So, they basically have to let me win. •And eventually, probably six months before the election, they’ll be loving me because they’re saying, “Please, please, don’t lose Donald Trump.” O.K.	•TRUMP: Wir werden weitere vier Jahre gewinnen, und zwar aus vielen Gründen, vor allem, weil unser Land sich wieder gut schlägt und wir wieder respektiert werden. •Aber ein weiterer Grund, dass ich noch vier Jahre gewinnen werde, ist, dass Zeitungen, Fernsehen, alle Medienarten Schiffbruch erleiden werden, wenn ich nicht da bin, denn ohne mich gehen ihre Einschaltquoten den Bach runter. •Ohne mich wird die New York Times wohl nicht die scheiternde New York Times sein, sondern die bankrotte New York Times. •Also müssen sie mich im Prinzip gewinnen lassen. •Und letztendlich, wahrscheinlich sechs Monate vor der Wahl, werden sie mich lieben, weil sie sagen: "Bitte, bitte, verliere nicht, Donald Trump." O.K.

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Excerpts from Trump’s Interview with The Times.
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By The New York Times, December 28, 2017. https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/us/politics/trump-interview-excerpts.html?_r=0.
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(Note: MvR - for an explanation of the US acronyms, see the Discussion).
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President Trump spoke on Thursday with a reporter from The New York Times, Michael S. Schmidt.
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The interview took place in the Grill Room of his golf club in West Palm Beach, Fla., whose noise made some portions at times hard to hear.
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The following are excerpts from that conversation, transcribed by The Times.
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They have been lightly edited for content and clarity, and omit several off-the-record comments and asides.
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The interview started with a discussion of an interview Mr. Schmidt conducted with Mr. Trump in July, when Mr. Trump said he would not have appointed Jeff Sessions as attorney general had he known that Mr.
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Sessions would recuse himself from the Russia investigation.
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DONALD J. TRUMP: I thought it was a terrible thing he did.
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[Inaudible.]
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I thought it was certainly unnecessary, I thought it was a terrible thing.
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But I think it’s all worked out because frankly there is absolutely no collusion, that’s been proven by every Democrat is saying it.
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MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT: You’re O.K.
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with me recording, right?
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TRUMP: Yeah.
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Virtually every Democrat has said there is no collusion.
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There is no collusion.
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And even these committees that have been set up.
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If you look at what’s going on — and in fact, what it’s done is, it’s really angered the base and made the base stronger.
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My base is stronger than it’s ever been.
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Great congressmen, in particular, some of the congressmen have been unbelievable in pointing out what a witch hunt the whole thing is.
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So, I think it’s been proven that there is no collusion.
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And by the way, I didn’t deal with Russia.
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I won because I was a better candidate by a lot.
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I won because I campaigned properly and she didn’t.
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She campaigned for the popular vote.
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I campaigned for the Electoral College.
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And you know, it is a totally different thing, Mike.
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You know the Electoral College, it’s like a track star.
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If you’re going to run the 100-yard dash, you work out differently than if you’re going to run the 1,000 meters or the mile.
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And it’s different.
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It’s in golf.
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If you have a tournament and you have match play or stroke play, you prepare differently, believe it or not.
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It’s different.
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Match play is very different than stroke play.
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And you prepare.
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So, I went to Maine five times, I went to [inaudible], the genius of the Electoral College is that you go to places you might not go to.
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And that’s exactly what [inaudible].
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Otherwise, I would have gone to New York, California, Texas and Florida.
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SCHMIDT: You would have run completely differently.
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TRUMP: It would have been a whole different thing.
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The genius is that the popular vote is a much different form of campaigning.
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Hillary never understood that.
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SCHMIDT: What’s your expectation on Mueller?
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When do you — TRUMP: I have no expectation.
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I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion.
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Everybody knows it.
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And you know who knows it better than anybody?
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The Democrats.
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They walk around blinking at each other.
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SCHMIDT: But when do you think he’ll be done in regards to you — TRUMP: I don’t know.
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SCHMIDT: But does that bother you?
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TRUMP: No, it doesn’t bother me because I hope that he’s going to be fair.
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I think that he’s going to be fair.
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And based on that [inaudible].
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There’s been no collusion.
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But I think he’s going to be fair.
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And if he’s fair — because everybody knows the answer already, Michael.
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I want you to treat me fairly.
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O.K.?
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SCHMIDT: Believe me.
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This is — TRUMP: Everybody knows the answer already.
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There was no collusion.
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None whatsoever.
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TRUMP: Maybe I’ll just say a little bit of a [inaudible].
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I’ve always found Paul Manafort to be a very nice man.
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And I found him to be an honorable person.
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Paul only worked for me for a few months.
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Paul worked for Ronald Reagan.
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His firm worked for John McCain, worked for Bob Dole, worked for many Republicans for far longer than he worked for me.
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And you’re talking about what Paul was many years ago before I ever heard of him.
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He worked for me for — what was it, three and a half months?
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SCHMIDT: A very short period of time.
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TRUMP: Three and a half months.
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[Inaudible] So, that’s that.
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Let’s just say — I think that Bob Mueller will be fair, and everybody knows that there was no collusion.
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I saw Dianne Feinstein the other day on television saying there is no collusion.
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She’s the head of the committee.
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The Republicans, in terms of the House committees, they come out, they’re so angry because there is no collusion.
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So, I actually think that it’s turning out — I actually think it’s turning to the Democrats because there was collusion on behalf of the Democrats.
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There was collusion with the Russians and the Democrats.
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A lot of collusion.
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SCHMIDT: Dossier?
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TRUMP: Starting with the dossier.
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But going into so many other elements.
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And Podesta’s firm.
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_________ SCHMIDT: That’s true.
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But in terms of, the lawyers said it would be done by, your guys said, it would be done by Thanksgiving, it would be done by Christmas.
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What are they telling you now?
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What are they telling you?
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TRUMP: [Inaudible.]
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There was tremendous collusion on behalf of the Russians and the Democrats.
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There was no collusion with respect to my campaign.
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I think I’ll be treated fairly.
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Timing wise, I can’t tell you.
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I just don’t know.
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But I think we’ll be treated fairly.
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SCHMIDT: But you’re not worked up about the timing?
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TRUMP: Well, I think it’s bad for the country.
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The only thing that bothers me about timing, I think it’s a very bad thing for the country.
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Because it makes the country look bad, it makes the country look very bad, and it puts the country in a very bad position.
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So, the sooner it’s worked out, the better it is for the country.
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But there is tremendous collusion with the Russians and with the Democratic Party.
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Including all of the stuff with the — and then whatever happened to the Pakistani guy, that had the two, you know, whatever happened to this Pakistani guy who worked with the D.N.C.?
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Whatever happened to them?
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With the two servers that they broke up into a million pieces?
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Whatever happened to him?
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That was a big story.
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Now all of sudden [inaudible].
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So, I know The New York Times is going to — because those are real stories.
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Whatever happened to the Hillary Clinton deleted 33,000 emails after she got [inaudible] — which you guys wrote, but then you dropped — was that you?
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SCHMIDT: You control the Justice Department.
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Should they reopen that email investigation?
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TRUMP: What I’ve done is, I have absolute right to do what I want to do with the Justice Department.
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But for purposes of hopefully thinking I’m going to be treated fairly, I’ve stayed uninvolved with this particular matter.
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TRUMP: For purposes of the Justice Department, I watched Alan Dershowitz the other day, who by the way, says I, says this is a ridiculous — SCHMIDT: He’s been very good to you.
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TRUMP: He’s been amazing.
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And he’s a liberal Democrat.
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I don’t know him.
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He’s a liberal Democrat.
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I watched Alan Dershowitz the other day, he said, No.
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1, there is no collusion, No.
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2, collusion is not a crime, but even if it was a crime, there was no collusion.
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And he said that very strongly.
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He said there was no collusion.
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And he has studied this thing very closely.
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I’ve seen him a number of times.
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There is no collusion, and even if there was, it’s not a crime.
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But there’s no collusion.
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I don’t even say [inaudible].
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I don’t even go that far.
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O.K.?
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You start off with New York, California and Illinois against you.
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That means you have to run the East Coast, which I did, and everything else.
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Which I did and then won Wisconsin and Michigan.
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[Inaudible.]
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So, the Democrats.
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… [Inaudible.]
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… They thought there was no way for a Republican, not me, a Republican, to win the Electoral College.
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Well, they’re [inaudible].
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They made the Russian story up as a hoax, as a ruse, as an excuse for losing an election that in theory Democrats should always win with the Electoral College.
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The Electoral College is so much better suited to the Democrats [inaudible].
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But it didn’t work out that way.
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And I will tell you they cannot believe that this became a story.
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SCHMIDT: So, they had to do this to come after you, to undercut you?
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TRUMP: No, no, they thought it would be a one-day story, an excuse, and it just kept going and going and going.
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It’s too bad Jeff recused himself.
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I like Jeff, but it’s too bad he recused himself.
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I thought.
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… Many people will tell you that something is [inaudible].
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SCHMIDT: Do you think Holder was more loyal to.
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… TRUMP: I don’t want to get into loyalty, but I will tell you that, I will say this: Holder protected President Obama.
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Totally protected him.
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When you look at the I.R.S.
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scandal, when you look at the guns for whatever, when you look at all of the tremendous, ah, real problems they had, not made-up problems like Russian collusion, these were real problems.
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When you look at the things that they did, and Holder protected the president.
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And I have great respect for that, I’ll be honest, I have great respect for that.
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SCHMIDT: Tell me about what you were saying that the Democrats.
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… [Inaudible.]
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… Tell me about the Democrats on the tax bill, which you were telling me about.
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Explain that to me, I thought that was interesting.
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TRUMP: So.
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… We started taxes.
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And we don’t hear from the Democrats.
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You know, we hear bullshit from the Democrats.
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Like Joe Manchin.
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Joe’s a nice guy.
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SCHMIDT: He is a very nice guy.
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TRUMP: But he talks.
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But he doesn’t do anything.
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He doesn’t do.
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“Hey, let’s get together, let’s do bipartisan.” I say, “Good, let’s go.” Then you don’t hear from him again.
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I like Joe.
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You know, it’s like he’s the great centrist.
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But he’s really not a centrist.
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And I think the people of West Virginia will see that.
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He not a centrist.
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… I’m the one that saved coal.
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I’m the one that created jobs.
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You know West Virginia is doing fantastically now.
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SCHMIDT: It’s a big.
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… It’s a very popular place for you.
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TRUMP: It’s the biggest turnaround.
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West Virginia, their average, their G.D.P.
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is the biggest turnaround after Texas.
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Texas [inaudible].
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… The second percentage gain in G.D.P.
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[Inaudible.]
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And I won that state by 43 points against crooked Hillary Clinton.
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And I’ll tell you, I think Joe, ah.
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… I think there’s a lot of talk.
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… A lot of talk.
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I think we have four or five senators that [inaudible].
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Just so you understand, Alabama.
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… I wasn’t for him.
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I was for Strange.
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SCHMIDT: Do you think he should stop the recount?
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You know he said that they’re.
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… He was protesting the election today.
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Moore.
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TRUMP: Well, I.
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… Look.
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… Let him do whatever he wants to do.
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I was for Strange, and I brought Strange up 20 points.
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Just so you understand.
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When I endorsed him, he was in fifth place?
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He went way up.
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Almost 20 points.
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But he fell a little short.
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But I knew what I was doing.
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Because I thought that.
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… If you look at my rhetoric, I said the problem with Roy Moore is that he will lose the election.
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I called it.
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But as the head of the party, I have a choice: Do I endorse him or not?
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I don’t know.
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Um … SCHMIDT: Was it a mistake?
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TRUMP: And by the way, when I endorsed him, he went up.
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It was a much closer race.
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SCHMIDT: Was it a mistake to endorse him?
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TRUMP: I feel that I have to endorse Republicans as the head of the party.
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So, I endorsed him.
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It became a much closer race because of my endorsement.
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People don’t say that.
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They say, Oh, Donald Trump lost.
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I didn’t lose, I brought him up a lot.
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He was not the candidate that I thought was going to win.
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If you look at my statements, you’ve seen them, I said, “Look, I’m for Luther Strange because I like him, but I’m also for Luther Strange because he’s going to win the election.” There wouldn’t have been an election.
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He would have won by 25 points.
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SCHMIDT: He would have won big?
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TRUMP: The problem with Roy Moore, and I said this, is that he’s going to lose the election.
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I hope you can straighten that out.
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Luther Strange was brought way up after my endorsement and he almost won.
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But.
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… Almost won.
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… He lost by 7 points, 7 or 8 points.
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And he was way behind.
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Because of two things, you know, what happened.
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… [Inaudible.]
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… But I never thought Roy was going to win the election, but I felt.
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… I never thought he was going to win the election, but I felt.
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… And I said that very clearly.
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… And I wish you would cover that, because frankly, I said, if Luther doesn’t win, Roy is going to lose the election.
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I always felt Roy was going to lose the election.
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But I endorsed him because I feel it’s my obligation as the head of the Republican Party to endorse him.
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And you see how tight it was even to get a popular.
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… In Republican circles, to get a very popular tax cut approved, actually reform.
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Two votes.
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Now we have one vote, all right?
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O.K., let’s get onto your final question, your other question.
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Had the Democrats come through.
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… SCHMIDT: Tell me about that, yeah.
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TRUMP: Had they asked, “Let’s do a bipartisan,” Michael, I would have done bipartisan.
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I would absolutely have done bipartisan.
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SCHMIDT: But they didn’t.
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… They didn’t … TRUMP: And if I did bipartisan, I would have done something with SALT [the state and local tax deduction].
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With that being said, you look back, Ronald Reagan wanted to take deductibility away from states.
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Ronald Reagan, years ago, and he couldn’t do it.
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Because New York had a very powerful group of people.
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Which they don’t have today.
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Today, they don’t have the same representatives.
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You know, in those days they had Lew Rudin and me.
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… I fought like hell for that.
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They had a lot of very good guys.
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Lew Rudin was very effective.
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He worked hard for New York.
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And we had some very good senators.
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… You know, we had a lot of people who fought very hard against, let’s call it SALT.
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Had they come to me and said, look, we’ll do this, this, this, we’ll do [inaudible].
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I could have done something with SALT.
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Or made it less severe.
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But they were very ineffective.
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They were very, very ineffective.
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You understand what I mean.
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Had they come to me for a bipartisan tax bill, I would have gone to Mitch, and I would have gone to the other Republicans, and we could have worked something out bipartisan.
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And that could’ve been either a change to SALT or knockout of SALT.
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But, just so you understand, Ronald Reagan wanted to take deductibility away and he was unable to do it.
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Ronald Reagan wanted to have ANWR approved 40 years ago and he was unable to do it.
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Think of that.
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And the individual mandate is the most unpopular thing in Obamacare, and I got rid of it.
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You know, we gained with the individual.
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… You know the individual mandate, Michael, means you take money and you give it to the government for the privilege of not having to pay more money to have health insurance you don’t want.
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There are people who had very good health insurance that now are paying not to have health insurance.
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That’s what the individual mandate.
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… They’re not going to have to pay anymore.
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So, when people think that will be unpopular.
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… It’s going to be very popular.
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It’s going to be very popular.
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Now, in my opinion, they should come to me on infrastructure.
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They should come to me, which they have come to me, on DACA.
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We are working.
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… We’re trying to something about it.
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And they should definitely come to me on health care.
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Because we can do bipartisan health care.
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We can do bipartisan infrastructure.
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And we can do bipartisan DACA.
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SCHMIDT: What are you willing to do on infrastructure?
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How far are you willing to go?
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How much money?
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TRUMP: I actually think we can get as many Democrat votes as we have Republican.
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Republicans want to see infrastructure.
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Michael, we have spent, as of about a month ago, $7 trillion in the Middle East.
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And the Middle East is worse than it was 17 years ago.
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… [Inaudible.]
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$7 trillion.
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And if you want $12 to fix up a road or a highway, you can’t get it.
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I want to do a trillion-dollar infrastructure bill, at least.
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We want to fix our roads, our highways, our bridges, which are in bad shape.
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And you know some of them are actually, they’re x-ed out, they have, you know, possibilities of collapse under bad circumstances.
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And in 10 years they will collapse.
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So, I want a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan.
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I think it can be bipartisan.
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I believe we can do health care in a bipartisan way, because now we’ve essentially gutted and ended Obamacare.
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[Cross talk.]
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SCHMIDT: But what’s the goal?
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What’s the goal?
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TRUMP: Wait, wait, let me just tell you.
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… Also, beyond the individual mandate, but also [inaudible] associations.
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You understand what the associations are.
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… [Cross talk.]
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TRUMP: So now I have associations, I have private insurance companies coming and will sell private health care plans to people through associations.
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That’s gonna be millions and millions of people.
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People have no idea how big that is.
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And by the way, and for that, we’ve ended across state lines.
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So, we have competition.
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You know for that I’m allowed to [inaudible] state lines.
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So that’s all done.
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Now I’ve ended the individual mandate.
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And the other thing I wish you’d tell people.
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So, when I do this, and we’ve got health care, you know, McCain did his vote.
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… But what we have.
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I had a hundred congressmen that said no and I was able to talk them into it.
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They’re great people.
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Two things: No.
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1, I have unbelievably great relationships with 97 percent of the Republican congressmen and senators.
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I love them and they love me.
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That’s No.
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1.
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And No.
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2, I know more about the big bills.
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… [Inaudible.]
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… Than any president that’s ever been in office.
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Whether it’s health care and taxes.
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Especially taxes.
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And if I didn’t, I couldn’t have persuaded a hundred.
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… You ask Mark Meadows [inaudible].
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… I couldn’t have persuaded a hundred congressmen to go along with the bill.
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The first bill, you know, that was ultimately, shockingly rejected.
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I’ll tell you something [inaudible].
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… Put me on the defense, I was a great student and all this stuff.
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Oh, he doesn’t know the details, these are sick people.
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So, the taxes.
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… [Inaudible.]
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… The tax cut will be, the tax bill, prediction, will be far bigger than anyone imagines.
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Expensing will be perhaps the greatest of all provisions.
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Where you can do something, you can buy something.
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… Piece of equipment.
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… You can do lots of different things, and you can write it off and expense it in one year.
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That will be one of the great stimuli in history.
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You watch.
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That’ll be one of the big.
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… People don’t even talk about expensing, what’s the word “expensing.” [Inaudible.]
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One-year expensing.
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Watch the money coming back into the country, it’ll be more money than people anticipate.
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But Michael, I know the details of taxes better than anybody.
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Better than the greatest C.P.A.
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I know the details of health care better than most, better than most.
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And if I didn’t, I couldn’t have talked all these people into doing ultimately only to be rejected.
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Now here’s the good news.
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We’ve created associations, millions of people are joining associations.
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Millions.
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That were formerly in Obamacare or didn’t have insurance.
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Or didn’t have health care.
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Millions of people.
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That’s gonna be a big bill, you watch.
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It could be as high as 50 percent of the people.
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You watch.
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So that’s a big thing.
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And the individual mandate.
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So now you have associations, and people don’t even talk about the associations.
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That could be half the people are going to be joining up.
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… With private [inaudible].
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So now you have associations and the individual mandate.
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I believe that because of the individual mandate and the associations, the Democrats will and certainly should come to me and see if they can do a really great health care plan for the remaining people.
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[Inaudible.]
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SCHMIDT: And you think you can do it?
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TRUMP: Well, we’re perfectly set up to do it.
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See, it was hard for them to do it as long as the individual mandate existed.
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But now that the individual mandate is officially killed, people have no idea how big a deal that was.
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It’s the most unpopular part of Obamacare.
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But now, Obamacare is essentially.
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… You know, you saw this.
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… It’s basically dead over a period of time.
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SCHMIDT: Yeah.
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TRUMP: But the Democrats should come to a bipartisan bill.
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And we can fix it.
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We can fix it.
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We can make a great health care plan.
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Not Obamacare, which was a bad plan.
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We can make a great health care plan through bipartisanship.
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We can do a great infrastructure plan through bipartisanship.
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And we can do on immigration, and DACA in particular, we can do something that’s terrific through bipartisanship.
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SCHMIDT: It sounds like you’re tacking to the center in a way you didn’t before.
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TRUMP: No, I’m not being centered.
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I’m just being practical.
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No, I don’t think I’m changing.
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Look, I wouldn’t do a DACA plan without a wall.
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Because we need it.
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We see the drugs pouring into the country, we need the wall.
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SCHMIDT: So, you’re not moving.
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You’re saying I’m more likely to do deals, but I’m not moving.
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TRUMP: I’m always moving.
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I’m moving in both directions.
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We have to get rid of chainlike immigration, we have to get rid of the chain.
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The chain is the last guy that killed.
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… [Talking with guests.]
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… The last guy that killed the eight people.
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… [Inaudible.]
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… So badly wounded people.
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… Twenty-two people came in through chain migration.
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Chain migration and the lottery system.
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They have a lottery in these countries.
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They take the worst people in the country, they put ‘em into the lottery, then they have a handful of bad, worse ones, and they put them out.
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‘Oh, these are the people the United States.
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…” … We’re gonna get rid of the lottery, and by the way, the Democrats agree with me on that.
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On chain migration, they pretty much agree with me.
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[Cross talk with guests.]
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CHRISTOPHER RUDDY, the president and chief executive of Newsmax: Canada, U.K., Australia.
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… All do best and brightest.
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… TRUMP: Yeah, they have a merit system, we’ll eventually go to a merit-based system.
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When we bring people in.
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… That No.
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1, don’t need our resources and No.
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2, have great capabilities.
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SCHMIDT: Do you think I’m wrong to think next year could be the year of you being a real deal maker, in a way you maybe weren’t in the past year?
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TRUMP: I was.
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I make deals with the Republicans.
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I had nobody to make a deal with the Democrats.
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The Democrats could have made a much better tax deal for Democrats if they came to see us, but they didn’t come.
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They never thought I’d be able to get this over the line.
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And especially when McCain, when John McCain left and went to Arizona, they thought they had it made.
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SCHMIDT: Explain your North Korea tweet to me today.
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TRUMP: Which one?
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SCHMIDT: You said about the oil, that China.
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… [Cross talk.]
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SCHMIDT: What’s going on there.
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Tell me about that.
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TRUMP: Yeah, China.
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… China’s been.
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… I like very much President Xi.
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He treated me better than anybody’s ever been treated in the history of China.
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You know that.
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The presentations.
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… One of the great two days of anybody’s life and memory having to do with China.
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He’s a friend of mine, he likes me, I like him, we have a great chemistry together.
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He’s [inaudible] of the United States.
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…[Inaudible.]
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China’s hurting us very badly on trade, but I have been soft on China because the only thing more important to me than trade is war.
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O.K.?
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[Cross talk with guests.]
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SCHMIDT: Can you finish your thought on North Korea.
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What’s going on with China?
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TRUMP: I’m disappointed.
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You know that they found oil going into.
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… SCHMIDT: But how recently?
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TRUMP: It was very recently.
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In fact, I hate to say, it was reported this morning, and it was reported on Fox.
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Oil is going into North Korea.
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That wasn’t my deal!
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SCHMIDT: What was the deal?
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TRUMP: My deal was that, we’ve got to treat them rough.
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They’re a nuclear menace so we have to be very tough.
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RUDDY: Mr. President, was that a picture from recent or was that months ago?
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I don’t know.
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… TRUMP: Oil is going into North Korea, I know.
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Oil is going into North Korea.
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So, I’m not happy about it.
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SCHMIDT: So, what are you going to do?
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TRUMP: We’ll see.
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That I can’t tell you, Michael.
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But we’ll see.
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I can tell you one thing: This is a problem that should have been handled for the last 25 years.
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This is a problem, North Korea.
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That should have been handled for 25, 30 years, not by me.
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This should have been handled long before me.
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Long before this guy has whatever he has.
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SCHMIDT: Do you think we’ve been too soft on China on North Korea?
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TRUMP: No, look, I like China, and I like him a lot.
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But, as you know, when I campaigned, I was very tough on China in terms of trade.
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They made — last year, we had a trade deficit with China of $350 billion, minimum.
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That doesn’t include the theft of intellectual property, O.K., which is another $300 billion.
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So, China — and you know, somebody said, oh, currency manipulation.
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If they’re helping me with North Korea, I can look at trade a little bit differently, at least for a period of time.
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And that’s what I’ve been doing.
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But when oil is going in, I’m not happy about that.
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I think I expressed that in probably [inaudible].
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TRUMP, as aides walk by: And, by the way, it’s not a tweet.
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It’s social media, and it gets out in the world, and the reason I do well is that I can be treated unfairly and very dishonestly by CNN, and, you know, I have — what do have now, John, 158 million, including Facebook, including Twitter, including Instagram, including every form, I have a 158 million people.
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Reporting just this morning, they said 158 million.
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So, if they a do a story that’s false, I can do something — otherwise, Andy, otherwise you just sort of walk around saying what can I do?
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What, am I going to have a press conference every time somebody, every time Michael writes something wrong?
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So, China on trade has ripped off this country more than any other element of the world in history has ripped off anything.
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But I can be different if they’re helping us with North Korea.
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If they don’t help us with North Korea, then I do what I’ve always said I want to do.
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China can help us much more, and they have to help us much more.
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And they have to help us much more.
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We have a nuclear menace out there, which is no good for China, and it’s not good for Russia.
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It’s no good for anybody.
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Does that make sense?
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SCHMIDT: Yeah, yeah, it makes a lot of sense.
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TRUMP: The only thing that supersedes trade to me — because I’m the big trade guy, I got elected to a certain extent on trade.
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You see, I’m renegotiating Nafta, or I’ll terminate it.
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If I don’t make the right deal, I’ll terminate Nafta in two seconds.
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But we’re doing pretty good.
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You know, it’s easier to renegotiate it if we make it a fair deal because Nafta was a terrible deal for us.
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We lost $71 billion a year with Mexico, can you believe it?
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$17 billion with Canada — Canada says we broke even.
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But they don’t include lumber and they don’t include oil.
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Oh, that’s not.
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… [Inaudible,] … My friend Justin he says, “No, no, we break even.” I said, ‘Yeah, but you’re not including oil, and you’re not including lumber.” When you do, you lose $17 billion, and with the other one, we’re losing $71 billion.
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So, the only thing that supersedes trade to me is war.
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If we can solve the North Korea problem.
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China cannot.
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… SCHMIDT: You still think there’s a diplomatic solution?
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TRUMP: China has a tremendous power over North Korea.
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Far greater than anyone knows.
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They could be much stronger.
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But another reason that I’m going to win another four years is because newspapers, television, all forms of media will tank if I’m not there because without me, their ratings are going down the tubes.
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Without me, The New York Times will indeed be not the failing New York Times, but the failed New York Times.
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So, they basically have to let me win.
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And eventually, probably six months before the election, they’ll be loving me because they’re saying, “Please, please, don’t lose Donald Trump.” O.K.
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This was an unplanned impromptu interview that Donald Trump, on holidays in Mar-o-Lago, West Palm Beach, Florida, gave to New York Times reporter Michael Schmidt. The interview was given without preparation and in the absence of White House aides, very unusual in the highly scripted interviews, traditionally given by previous US presidents.

For the non-US readers, here is a brief glossary of the acronyms and terms, commonly found in the US media:

D.N.C. Democratic National Committee
I.R.S. Internal Revenue Service, collects federal taxes for the US Treasury Department
G.D.P. Gross Domestic Product
SALT State And Local taxes — these were always fully deductible for US federal tax calculation, until the recent adoption of the new federal tax law. From 2018 on they will be capped at $10,000, which is of concern to residents of high SALT states, like California and New York.
ANWR Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, there has been an ongoing tug-of-war between Republicans who want to open the Arctic for oil and gas exploration and the Democrats who are opposed to it.
DACA Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, enacted by former president Obama in 2012 to protect the children of undocumented immigrants. DACA was rescinded in 2017 by president Trump, who wants Congress to address it.
Obamacare The US healthcare system adopted by Congress in 2009, also known as the Affordable Care Act (ACA).
Individual Mandate The requirement under the ACA that all Americans purchase health insurance. It was eliminated as part of the recently adopted new federal tax law.
C.P.A. Certified Public Accountant, the professional Americans typically rely on to help them with preparing their tax forms.
CNN Cable News Network, the popular US and International TV news channel, founded by Ted Turner in 1980 and headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia.
Nafta, more commonly NAFTA, North American Free Trade Agreement - between Canada, the USA and Mexico.

by markvanroode 7 years, 6 months ago

Excerpts from Trump’s Interview with The Times.

By The New York Times, December 28, 2017.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/28/us/politics/trump-interview-excerpts.html?_r=0.

(Note: MvR - for an explanation of the US acronyms, see the Discussion).

President Trump spoke on Thursday with a reporter from The New York Times, Michael S. Schmidt. The interview took place in the Grill Room of his golf club in West Palm Beach, Fla., whose noise made some portions at times hard to hear.

The following are excerpts from that conversation, transcribed by The Times. They have been lightly edited for content and clarity, and omit several off-the-record comments and asides.

The interview started with a discussion of an interview Mr. Schmidt conducted with Mr. Trump in July, when Mr. Trump said he would not have appointed Jeff Sessions as attorney general had he known that Mr. Sessions would recuse himself from the Russia investigation.

DONALD J. TRUMP: I thought it was a terrible thing he did. [Inaudible.] I thought it was certainly unnecessary, I thought it was a terrible thing. But I think it’s all worked out because frankly there is absolutely no collusion, that’s been proven by every Democrat is saying it.

MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT: You’re O.K. with me recording, right?

TRUMP: Yeah. Virtually every Democrat has said there is no collusion. There is no collusion. And even these committees that have been set up. If you look at what’s going on — and in fact, what it’s done is, it’s really angered the base and made the base stronger. My base is stronger than it’s ever been. Great congressmen, in particular, some of the congressmen have been unbelievable in pointing out what a witch hunt the whole thing is. So, I think it’s been proven that there is no collusion.

And by the way, I didn’t deal with Russia. I won because I was a better candidate by a lot. I won because I campaigned properly and she didn’t. She campaigned for the popular vote. I campaigned for the Electoral College. And you know, it is a totally different thing, Mike. You know the Electoral College, it’s like a track star. If you’re going to run the 100-yard dash, you work out differently than if you’re going to run the 1,000 meters or the mile.

And it’s different. It’s in golf. If you have a tournament and you have match play or stroke play, you prepare differently, believe it or not. It’s different. Match play is very different than stroke play. And you prepare. So, I went to Maine five times, I went to [inaudible], the genius of the Electoral College is that you go to places you might not go to.

And that’s exactly what [inaudible]. Otherwise, I would have gone to New York, California, Texas and Florida.

SCHMIDT: You would have run completely differently.

TRUMP: It would have been a whole different thing. The genius is that the popular vote is a much different form of campaigning. Hillary never understood that.

SCHMIDT: What’s your expectation on Mueller? When do you —

TRUMP: I have no expectation. I can only tell you that there is absolutely no collusion. Everybody knows it. And you know who knows it better than anybody? The Democrats. They walk around blinking at each other.
SCHMIDT: But when do you think he’ll be done in regards to you —

TRUMP: I don’t know.

SCHMIDT: But does that bother you?

TRUMP: No, it doesn’t bother me because I hope that he’s going to be fair. I think that he’s going to be fair. And based on that [inaudible]. There’s been no collusion. But I think he’s going to be fair. And if he’s fair — because everybody knows the answer already, Michael. I want you to treat me fairly. O.K.?

SCHMIDT: Believe me. This is —

TRUMP: Everybody knows the answer already. There was no collusion. None whatsoever.

TRUMP: Maybe I’ll just say a little bit of a [inaudible]. I’ve always found Paul Manafort to be a very nice man. And I found him to be an honorable person. Paul only worked for me for a few months. Paul worked for Ronald Reagan. His firm worked for John McCain, worked for Bob Dole, worked for many Republicans for far longer than he worked for me. And you’re talking about what Paul was many years ago before I ever heard of him. He worked for me for — what was it, three and a half months?

SCHMIDT: A very short period of time.

TRUMP: Three and a half months. [Inaudible] So, that’s that. Let’s just say — I think that Bob Mueller will be fair, and everybody knows that there was no collusion. I saw Dianne Feinstein the other day on television saying there is no collusion. She’s the head of the committee. The Republicans, in terms of the House committees, they come out, they’re so angry because there is no collusion. So, I actually think that it’s turning out — I actually think it’s turning to the Democrats because there was collusion on behalf of the Democrats. There was collusion with the Russians and the Democrats. A lot of collusion.

SCHMIDT: Dossier?

TRUMP: Starting with the dossier. But going into so many other elements. And Podesta’s firm.
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SCHMIDT: That’s true. But in terms of, the lawyers said it would be done by, your guys said, it would be done by Thanksgiving, it would be done by Christmas. What are they telling you now? What are they telling you?

TRUMP: [Inaudible.] There was tremendous collusion on behalf of the Russians and the Democrats. There was no collusion with respect to my campaign. I think I’ll be treated fairly. Timing wise, I can’t tell you. I just don’t know. But I think we’ll be treated fairly.
SCHMIDT: But you’re not worked up about the timing?

TRUMP: Well, I think it’s bad for the country. The only thing that bothers me about timing, I think it’s a very bad thing for the country. Because it makes the country look bad, it makes the country look very bad, and it puts the country in a very bad position. So, the sooner it’s worked out, the better it is for the country.

But there is tremendous collusion with the Russians and with the Democratic Party. Including all of the stuff with the — and then whatever happened to the Pakistani guy, that had the two, you know, whatever happened to this Pakistani guy who worked with the D.N.C.?

Whatever happened to them? With the two servers that they broke up into a million pieces? Whatever happened to him? That was a big story. Now all of sudden [inaudible]. So, I know The New York Times is going to — because those are real stories. Whatever happened to the Hillary Clinton deleted 33,000 emails after she got [inaudible] — which you guys wrote, but then you dropped — was that you?

SCHMIDT: You control the Justice Department. Should they reopen that email investigation?

TRUMP: What I’ve done is, I have absolute right to do what I want to do with the Justice Department. But for purposes of hopefully thinking I’m going to be treated fairly, I’ve stayed uninvolved with this particular matter.

TRUMP: For purposes of the Justice Department, I watched Alan Dershowitz the other day, who by the way, says I, says this is a ridiculous —

SCHMIDT: He’s been very good to you.

TRUMP: He’s been amazing. And he’s a liberal Democrat. I don’t know him. He’s a liberal Democrat. I watched Alan Dershowitz the other day, he said, No. 1, there is no collusion, No. 2, collusion is not a crime, but even if it was a crime, there was no collusion. And he said that very strongly. He said there was no collusion. And he has studied this thing very closely. I’ve seen him a number of times. There is no collusion, and even if there was, it’s not a crime. But there’s no collusion. I don’t even say [inaudible]. I don’t even go that far.

TRUMP: So, for the purposes of what’s going on with this phony Russian deal, which, by the way, you’ve heard me say it, is only an excuse for losing an election that they should have won, because it’s very hard for a Republican to win the Electoral College. O.K.? You start off with New York, California and Illinois against you. That means you have to run the East Coast, which I did, and everything else. Which I did and then won Wisconsin and Michigan. [Inaudible.] So, the Democrats. … [Inaudible.] … They thought there was no way for a Republican, not me, a Republican, to win the Electoral College. Well, they’re [inaudible]. They made the Russian story up as a hoax, as a ruse, as an excuse for losing an election that in theory Democrats should always win with the Electoral College. The Electoral College is so much better suited to the Democrats [inaudible]. But it didn’t work out that way. And I will tell you they cannot believe that this became a story.

SCHMIDT: So, they had to do this to come after you, to undercut you?

TRUMP: No, no, they thought it would be a one-day story, an excuse, and it just kept going and going and going. It’s too bad Jeff recused himself. I like Jeff, but it’s too bad he recused himself. I thought. … Many people will tell you that something is [inaudible].

SCHMIDT: Do you think Holder was more loyal to. …

TRUMP: I don’t want to get into loyalty, but I will tell you that, I will say this: Holder protected President Obama. Totally protected him. When you look at the I.R.S. scandal, when you look at the guns for whatever, when you look at all of the tremendous, ah, real problems they had, not made-up problems like Russian collusion, these were real problems. When you look at the things that they did, and Holder protected the president. And I have great respect for that, I’ll be honest, I have great respect for that.

SCHMIDT: Tell me about what you were saying that the Democrats. … [Inaudible.] … Tell me about the Democrats on the tax bill, which you were telling me about. Explain that to me, I thought that was interesting.

TRUMP: So. … We started taxes. And we don’t hear from the Democrats. You know, we hear bullshit from the Democrats. Like Joe Manchin. Joe’s a nice guy.

SCHMIDT: He is a very nice guy.

TRUMP: But he talks. But he doesn’t do anything. He doesn’t do. “Hey, let’s get together, let’s do bipartisan.” I say, “Good, let’s go.” Then you don’t hear from him again. I like Joe. You know, it’s like he’s the great centrist. But he’s really not a centrist. And I think the people of West Virginia will see that. He not a centrist. … I’m the one that saved coal. I’m the one that created jobs. You know West Virginia is doing fantastically now.

SCHMIDT: It’s a big. … It’s a very popular place for you.

TRUMP: It’s the biggest turnaround. West Virginia, their average, their G.D.P. is the biggest turnaround after Texas. Texas [inaudible]. … The second percentage gain in G.D.P. [Inaudible.] And I won that state by 43 points against crooked Hillary Clinton. And I’ll tell you, I think Joe, ah. … I think there’s a lot of talk. … A lot of talk. I think we have four or five senators that [inaudible]. Just so you understand, Alabama. … I wasn’t for him. I was for Strange.

SCHMIDT: Do you think he should stop the recount? You know he said that they’re. … He was protesting the election today. Moore.

TRUMP: Well, I. … Look. … Let him do whatever he wants to do. I was for Strange, and I brought Strange up 20 points. Just so you understand. When I endorsed him, he was in fifth place? He went way up. Almost 20 points. But he fell a little short. But I knew what I was doing. Because I thought that. … If you look at my rhetoric, I said the problem with Roy Moore is that he will lose the election. I called it. But as the head of the party, I have a choice: Do I endorse him or not? I don’t know. Um …

SCHMIDT: Was it a mistake?

TRUMP: And by the way, when I endorsed him, he went up. It was a much closer race.

SCHMIDT: Was it a mistake to endorse him?

TRUMP: I feel that I have to endorse Republicans as the head of the party. So, I endorsed him. It became a much closer race because of my endorsement. People don’t say that. They say, Oh, Donald Trump lost. I didn’t lose, I brought him up a lot. He was not the candidate that I thought was going to win. If you look at my statements, you’ve seen them, I said, “Look, I’m for Luther Strange because I like him, but I’m also for Luther Strange because he’s going to win the election.” There wouldn’t have been an election. He would have won by 25 points.

SCHMIDT: He would have won big?

TRUMP: The problem with Roy Moore, and I said this, is that he’s going to lose the election. I hope you can straighten that out. Luther Strange was brought way up after my endorsement and he almost won. But. …
Almost won. … He lost by 7 points, 7 or 8 points. And he was way behind. Because of two things, you know, what happened. … [Inaudible.] … But I never thought Roy was going to win the election, but I felt. … I never thought he was going to win the election, but I felt. … And I said that very clearly. … And I wish you would cover that, because frankly, I said, if Luther doesn’t win, Roy is going to lose the election. I always felt Roy was going to lose the election. But I endorsed him because I feel it’s my obligation as the head of the Republican Party to endorse him. And you see how tight it was even to get a popular. … In Republican circles, to get a very popular tax cut approved, actually reform. Two votes. Now we have one vote, all right?

O.K., let’s get onto your final question, your other question. Had the Democrats come through. …

SCHMIDT: Tell me about that, yeah.

TRUMP: Had they asked, “Let’s do a bipartisan,” Michael, I would have done bipartisan. I would absolutely have done bipartisan.

SCHMIDT: But they didn’t. … They didn’t …

TRUMP: And if I did bipartisan, I would have done something with SALT [the state and local tax deduction]. With that being said, you look back, Ronald Reagan wanted to take deductibility away from states. Ronald Reagan, years ago, and he couldn’t do it. Because New York had a very powerful group of people. Which they don’t have today. Today, they don’t have the same representatives. You know, in those days they had Lew Rudin and me. … I fought like hell for that. They had a lot of very good guys. Lew Rudin was very effective. He worked hard for New York. And we had some very good senators. … You know, we had a lot of people who fought very hard against, let’s call it SALT. Had they come to me and said, look, we’ll do this, this, this, we’ll do [inaudible]. I could have done something with SALT. Or made it less severe. But they were very ineffective. They were very, very ineffective. You understand what I mean. Had they come to me for a bipartisan tax bill, I would have gone to Mitch, and I would have gone to the other Republicans, and we could have worked something out bipartisan. And that could’ve been either a change to SALT or knockout of SALT.

But, just so you understand, Ronald Reagan wanted to take deductibility away and he was unable to do it. Ronald Reagan wanted to have ANWR approved 40 years ago and he was unable to do it. Think of that. And the individual mandate is the most unpopular thing in Obamacare, and I got rid of it. You know, we gained with the individual. … You know the individual mandate, Michael, means you take money and you give it to the government for the privilege of not having to pay more money to have health insurance you don’t want. There are people who had very good health insurance that now are paying not to have health insurance. That’s what the individual mandate. … They’re not going to have to pay anymore. So, when people think that will be unpopular. … It’s going to be very popular. It’s going to be very popular.

Now, in my opinion, they should come to me on infrastructure. They should come to me, which they have come to me, on DACA. We are working. … We’re trying to something about it. And they should definitely come to me on health care. Because we can do bipartisan health care. We can do bipartisan infrastructure. And we can do bipartisan DACA.

SCHMIDT: What are you willing to do on infrastructure? How far are you willing to go? How much money?

TRUMP: I actually think we can get as many Democrat votes as we have Republican. Republicans want to see infrastructure. Michael, we have spent, as of about a month ago, $7 trillion in the Middle East. And the Middle East is worse than it was 17 years ago. … [Inaudible.] $7 trillion. And if you want $12 to fix up a road or a highway, you can’t get it. I want to do a trillion-dollar infrastructure bill, at least. We want to fix our roads, our highways, our bridges, which are in bad shape. And you know some of them are actually, they’re x-ed out, they have, you know, possibilities of collapse under bad circumstances. And in 10 years they will collapse. So, I want a trillion-dollar infrastructure plan. I think it can be bipartisan. I believe we can do health care in a bipartisan way, because now we’ve essentially gutted and ended Obamacare.

[Cross talk.]

SCHMIDT: But what’s the goal? What’s the goal?

TRUMP: Wait, wait, let me just tell you. … Also, beyond the individual mandate, but also [inaudible] associations. You understand what the associations are. …

[Cross talk.]

TRUMP: So now I have associations, I have private insurance companies coming and will sell private health care plans to people through associations. That’s gonna be millions and millions of people. People have no idea how big that is. And by the way, and for that, we’ve ended across state lines. So, we have competition. You know for that I’m allowed to [inaudible] state lines. So that’s all done.

Now I’ve ended the individual mandate. And the other thing I wish you’d tell people. So, when I do this, and we’ve got health care, you know, McCain did his vote. … But what we have. I had a hundred congressmen that said no and I was able to talk them into it. They’re great people.

Two things: No. 1, I have unbelievably great relationships with 97 percent of the Republican congressmen and senators. I love them and they love me. That’s No. 1. And No. 2, I know more about the big bills. … [Inaudible.] … Than any president that’s ever been in office. Whether it’s health care and taxes. Especially taxes. And if I didn’t, I couldn’t have persuaded a hundred. … You ask Mark Meadows [inaudible]. … I couldn’t have persuaded a hundred congressmen to go along with the bill. The first bill, you know, that was ultimately, shockingly rejected.

I’ll tell you something [inaudible]. … Put me on the defense, I was a great student and all this stuff. Oh, he doesn’t know the details, these are sick people.

So, the taxes. … [Inaudible.] … The tax cut will be, the tax bill, prediction, will be far bigger than anyone imagines. Expensing will be perhaps the greatest of all provisions. Where you can do something, you can buy something. … Piece of equipment. … You can do lots of different things, and you can write it off and expense it in one year. That will be one of the great stimuli in history. You watch. That’ll be one of the big. … People don’t even talk about expensing, what’s the word “expensing.” [Inaudible.] One-year expensing. Watch the money coming back into the country, it’ll be more money than people anticipate.

But Michael, I know the details of taxes better than anybody. Better than the greatest C.P.A. I know the details of health care better than most, better than most. And if I didn’t, I couldn’t have talked all these people into doing ultimately only to be rejected.

Now here’s the good news. We’ve created associations, millions of people are joining associations. Millions. That were formerly in Obamacare or didn’t have insurance. Or didn’t have health care. Millions of people. That’s gonna be a big bill, you watch. It could be as high as 50 percent of the people. You watch. So that’s a big thing. And the individual mandate. So now you have associations, and people don’t even talk about the associations. That could be half the people are going to be joining up. … With private [inaudible]. So now you have associations and the individual mandate.

SCHMIDT: And you think you can do it?

TRUMP: Well, we’re perfectly set up to do it. See, it was hard for them to do it as long as the individual mandate existed. But now that the individual mandate is officially killed, people have no idea how big a deal that was. It’s the most unpopular part of Obamacare. But now, Obamacare is essentially. … You know, you saw this. … It’s basically dead over a period of time.

SCHMIDT: Yeah.

TRUMP: But the Democrats should come to a bipartisan bill. And we can fix it. We can fix it. We can make a great health care plan. Not Obamacare, which was a bad plan. We can make a great health care plan through bipartisanship. We can do a great infrastructure plan through bipartisanship. And we can do on immigration, and DACA in particular, we can do something that’s terrific through bipartisanship.

SCHMIDT: It sounds like you’re tacking to the center in a way you didn’t before.

TRUMP: No, I’m not being centered. I’m just being practical. No, I don’t think I’m changing. Look, I wouldn’t do a DACA plan without a wall. Because we need it. We see the drugs pouring into the country, we need the wall.

SCHMIDT: So, you’re not moving. You’re saying I’m more likely to do deals, but I’m not moving.

TRUMP: I’m always moving. I’m moving in both directions. We have to get rid of chainlike immigration, we have to get rid of the chain. The chain is the last guy that killed. … [Talking with guests.] … The last guy that killed the eight people. … [Inaudible.] … So badly wounded people. … Twenty-two people came in through chain migration. Chain migration and the lottery system. They have a lottery in these countries.

They take the worst people in the country, they put ‘em into the lottery, then they have a handful of bad, worse ones, and they put them out. ‘Oh, these are the people the United States. …” … We’re gonna get rid of the lottery, and by the way, the Democrats agree with me on that. On chain migration, they pretty much agree with me.

[Cross talk with guests.]

CHRISTOPHER RUDDY, the president and chief executive of Newsmax: Canada, U.K., Australia. … All do best and brightest. …

TRUMP: Yeah, they have a merit system, we’ll eventually go to a merit-based system. When we bring people in. … That No. 1, don’t need our resources and No. 2, have great capabilities.

SCHMIDT: Do you think I’m wrong to think next year could be the year of you being a real deal maker, in a way you maybe weren’t in the past year?

TRUMP: I was. I make deals with the Republicans. I had nobody to make a deal with the Democrats. The Democrats could have made a much better tax deal for Democrats if they came to see us, but they didn’t come. They never thought I’d be able to get this over the line. And especially when McCain, when John McCain left and went to Arizona, they thought they had it made.

SCHMIDT: Explain your North Korea tweet to me today.

TRUMP: Which one?

SCHMIDT: You said about the oil, that China. …

[Cross talk.]

SCHMIDT: What’s going on there. Tell me about that.

TRUMP: Yeah, China. … China’s been. … I like very much President Xi. He treated me better than anybody’s ever been treated in the history of China. You know that. The presentations. … One of the great two days of anybody’s life and memory having to do with China. He’s a friend of mine, he likes me, I like him, we have a great chemistry together. He’s [inaudible] of the United States. …[Inaudible.] China’s hurting us very badly on trade, but I have been soft on China because the only thing more important to me than trade is war. O.K.?

[Cross talk with guests.]

SCHMIDT: Can you finish your thought on North Korea. What’s going on with China?

TRUMP: I’m disappointed. You know that they found oil going into. …

SCHMIDT: But how recently?

TRUMP: It was very recently. In fact, I hate to say, it was reported this morning, and it was reported on Fox. Oil is going into North Korea. That wasn’t my deal!

SCHMIDT: What was the deal?

TRUMP: My deal was that, we’ve got to treat them rough. They’re a nuclear menace so we have to be very tough.

RUDDY: Mr. President, was that a picture from recent or was that months ago? I don’t know. …

TRUMP: Oil is going into North Korea, I know. Oil is going into North Korea. So, I’m not happy about it.

SCHMIDT: So, what are you going to do?

TRUMP: We’ll see. That I can’t tell you, Michael. But we’ll see. I can tell you one thing: This is a problem that should have been handled for the last 25 years. This is a problem, North Korea. That should have been handled for 25, 30 years, not by me. This should have been handled long before me. Long before this guy has whatever he has.

SCHMIDT: Do you think we’ve been too soft on China on North Korea?

TRUMP: No, look, I like China, and I like him a lot. But, as you know, when I campaigned, I was very tough on China in terms of trade. They made — last year, we had a trade deficit with China of $350 billion, minimum. That doesn’t include the theft of intellectual property, O.K., which is another $300 billion. So, China — and you know, somebody said, oh, currency manipulation. If they’re helping me with North Korea, I can look at trade a little bit differently, at least for a period of time. And that’s what I’ve been doing. But when oil is going in, I’m not happy about that. I think I expressed that in probably [inaudible].

TRUMP, as aides walk by: And, by the way, it’s not a tweet. It’s social media, and it gets out in the world, and the reason I do well is that I can be treated unfairly and very dishonestly by CNN, and, you know, I have — what do have now, John, 158 million, including Facebook, including Twitter, including Instagram, including every form, I have a 158 million people. Reporting just this morning, they said 158 million. So, if they a do a story that’s false, I can do something — otherwise, Andy, otherwise you just sort of walk around saying what can I do? What, am I going to have a press conference every time somebody, every time Michael writes something wrong?
So, China on trade has ripped off this country more than any other element of the world in history has ripped off anything. But I can be different if they’re helping us with North Korea. If they don’t help us with North Korea, then I do what I’ve always said I want to do. China can help us much more, and they have to help us much more. And they have to help us much more. We have a nuclear menace out there, which is no good for China, and it’s not good for Russia. It’s no good for anybody. Does that make sense?

SCHMIDT: Yeah, yeah, it makes a lot of sense.

TRUMP: The only thing that supersedes trade to me — because I’m the big trade guy, I got elected to a certain extent on trade. You see, I’m renegotiating Nafta, or I’ll terminate it. If I don’t make the right deal, I’ll terminate Nafta in two seconds. But we’re doing pretty good. You know, it’s easier to renegotiate it if we make it a fair deal because Nafta was a terrible deal for us. We lost $71 billion a year with Mexico, can you believe it? $17 billion with Canada — Canada says we broke even. But they don’t include lumber and they don’t include oil. Oh, that’s not. … [Inaudible,] … My friend Justin he says, “No, no, we break even.” I said, ‘Yeah, but you’re not including oil, and you’re not including lumber.” When you do, you lose $17 billion, and with the other one, we’re losing $71 billion. So, the only thing that supersedes trade to me is war. If we can solve the North Korea problem. China cannot. …

SCHMIDT: You still think there’s a diplomatic solution?

TRUMP: China has a tremendous power over North Korea. Far greater than anyone knows.

SCHMIDT: Why haven’t they stood up?

TRUMP: I hope they do, but as of this moment, they haven’t. They could be much stronger.

SCHMIDT: But why not?

TRUMP: China can solve the North Korea problem, and they’re helping us, and they’re even helping us a lot, but they’re not helping us enough.

TRUMP: We’re going to win another four years for a lot of reasons, most importantly because our country is starting to do well again and we’re being respected again. But another reason that I’m going to win another four years is because newspapers, television, all forms of media will tank if I’m not there because without me, their ratings are going down the tubes. Without me, The New York Times will indeed be not the failing New York Times, but the failed New York Times. So, they basically have to let me win. And eventually, probably six months before the election, they’ll be loving me because they’re saying, “Please, please, don’t lose Donald Trump.” O.K.